Friday, July 07, 2006

No love for Legace

Given how money's been flung around willy-nilly this offseason, I can't fathom how a goalie who "is 114-43-18 in 197 career regular-season games with a 2.21 GAA and .917 save percentage" can't find somewhere to play.

$11-million over three years for Martin Gerber. $6-million over three years for Andrew Raycroft. And, as a friend of mine just noted over my shoulder, even $700,000 for Patrick Lalime.

The thing is, this isn't the first time Manny Legace has been passed over in his career. A tiny, tiny netminder at about 5 foot 9, 160 pounds, he was once — very briefly — in the Vancouver Canucks organization, and given the sorry state of the organization's stable at the position at the time (or, well, all of the time), there were some calls to give the little guy a shot in the crease.

It didn't happen, and the Toronto native was shoved back into the waiver pool, the Detroit Red Wings reclaimed him for free, and a nasty trio of Kevin Weekes, Garth Snow and Felix Potvin stunk up the Canucks crease.

Needless to say, Legace would have been a better option, and I think that's the case for many of the teams that passed up on him so far. Wherever he ends up, be it Florida or St. Louis, my guess is he rises to the occasion once again.

At 33, however, he's running out of years that he can be passed over before opportunities run out.

17 Comments:

At 6:43 PM, July 07, 2006, Blogger JP said...

I have no idea if it has anything to do with it, but wasn't Legace fairly vocal during the lockout regarding how poor a job Goodenow and the union were doing in representing the players?

 
At 7:21 PM, July 07, 2006, Blogger James Mirtle said...

You'd think management would love a player critical of the big bad union boss.

 
At 7:28 PM, July 07, 2006, Blogger Jes Gőlbez said...

JP, it has more to do with criticizing teammates and himself during the course of the season. He's not the strongest goalie, mentally, and has a rep as a poison pill.

 
At 7:56 PM, July 07, 2006, Blogger James Mirtle said...

Good point, Jes — I should have mentioned some of his meltdowns.

 
At 10:15 PM, July 07, 2006, Anonymous David Johnson said...

Los Angeles traded for Cloutier and Tampa traded for Denis, and I am not convinced either of them are as good as Legace. There aren't many teams looking for goalies left, except Detroit.

 
At 3:04 AM, July 08, 2006, Blogger mudcrutch79 said...

There were some strange comments to the media during the Detroit series and I know that Abeltoyzerman wasn't sad to see him go. Does he criticize teammates? I've never heard of it.

That said, I think that he's a good goalie with a good track record. We'll see what he gets whereever he ends up.

 
At 3:14 AM, July 08, 2006, Blogger mike w said...

.917 SVP vs. weird self-defeating comments like "I want to hang myself" after losing to the Oilers in the first round.

Players and management seem happiest with goalies that are carefree and oblivious (I'm thinking of Grant Fuhr here) rather than jittery headcases. Legace's reputation precedes him.

 
At 9:26 AM, July 08, 2006, Blogger J. Michael Neal said...

AS I said in another thread, GMs (in all sports, not just hockey) have a tendency to not let actual performance change their preconceived notions.

 
At 10:02 AM, July 08, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is perhaps a combination of the comments he made during the playoffs and his actual price tag.

Rewind to Spring 2006, before the playoffs, and Legace is in contract renewal talks with the Wings. They offer $2.5 million. He turns that down wanting $4 million and a guarantee that he is the starter.

The Wings still considered him unproven in the playoffs and opted to wait. I don't think they ever believed he could do it. I remind everyone that Holland was bidding on Khabibhulin the summer before and the only reason Nikolai became a Hawk was because Detroit ran out of cap space.

Thus Manny Legace had an opportunity to prove them wrong. Instead he was "okay" but not stellar.

That said, yes someone should be interested in him, but if Mannny's agent is still asking for $4 million (or anything over $2.5 million at this point, imo) he is going to have to wait a bit longer. I do think Keenan should be looking at Manny pretty seriously. He's an UFA and what are the odds Florida gets far in the playoffs anyway? If they couldn't do it with Luongo....

 
At 10:03 AM, July 08, 2006, Anonymous snafu said...

That was me as "anonymous" just above this comment. Not sure why the name didn't get accepted. (James must be blocking me!)

 
At 10:22 AM, July 08, 2006, Anonymous Chris DeGroat said...

Hey James... sorry for stealing your headline... I didn't realize I did that until this morning. :)

 
At 1:14 PM, July 08, 2006, Blogger Andy Grabia said...

Forget Legace. What about Hasek?

 
At 2:38 PM, July 08, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Legace was only "lent" to the Canucks so that Detroit could avoid losing him in the waiver draft. I think that waiver draft loophole got dropped later.

Following link explains it a little bit.

http://tinyurl.com/s6bqz

 
At 5:12 PM, July 08, 2006, Blogger Nick said...

Manny's usually stellar regular season goalie and a so-so playoff goalie - but not as bad as the blame that's sometimes been piled on him in Detroit. I'm really suprised that Toronto didn't pick him up. I wish him the best - I always was a big fan... Hope he doesn't end up like Khabibulin in Chicago. Playing for a crap team with no hope of even making the playoffs.

 
At 5:18 PM, July 08, 2006, Blogger Nick said...

"I think now they're looking at probably (Ed) Belfour or bring back Dom (Hasek). That's what I foresee for them."

Screw that, I hope not. At this point, Detroit may want to think about holding on to Manny.

 
At 11:03 PM, July 31, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

There has got to be something majorly wrong with Legace if the Red Wings didn't resign him, and no team in the NHL is even calling. If a team hasn't even had contact with him or his agent he hasn't had the chance to demand 4 million. So, face it, between teams GM's talk, players talk. The question is with Legace having such a good year, and truthfully the team not playing stellar in front of him in playoffs (it is a team sport, he is not totally to blame). Something is up...the question is what. I did read in one of the Detroit papers about him being sprawled on the ice for 10 seconds and not one player coming over and talking to him, urging him to get up, etc. That he was a big baby. With the comments he made during and after the playoffs it sounds as if he's not the sharpest skate on the ice.

 
At 9:47 AM, December 06, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

hi i'm from argentina, here we can't see the games, like i would, but well, i saw the replays over internet, in the red wings page, well, i want to say, that i don't understand why he isn't playing in the red's the new goali, mac donald, it very lame, and evey time he played we loss...

 

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