Tuesday, November 28, 2006

Pronger for the Hart?

It's a funny day to be having this discussion, what with all the hullaballo going on in Oil-town, but I pick up on a few things Matt Fenwick and Earl Sleek have been punting around the past couple of days at Globe on Hockey. Nice work guys.

I think that's the first time I've picked up something from outside blogs for the 'work' blog, and it feels a tad like worlds colliding — but here's hoping this is a way to get more readers hooked on the blogosphere.


At 7:42 p.m., November 28, 2006, Blogger Rick said...


I know people on Eastern Time have a lot of trouble actually being able to do so (I know, I lived in Chicago and that's only 2 hours different...), but if you actually watch the Ducks, it's Niedermayer, not Pronger that should, IMO, win the Hart and the Norris (though Pronger should be a finalist.) He may have less points, but he's the man. You just feel it every time he hits the ice.

I also spent time in Northern NJ and have attended scores of Devils games. Niedermayer was a presence then too, but nothing like he is now. It's awesome to watch.

At 8:10 p.m., November 28, 2006, Blogger Earl Sleek said...


Nothing is meant really to knock Niedermayer, he is a lot of fun to watch with his wandering style. Still, we're going to throw away "result" numbers and just vote for a guy who skates the sexiest?

This isn't about just "point count", either, but really who is on the ice when goals are scored, and who is on the ice when goals are allowed. If SNieds were the MVP, you'd expect the numbers at least to be somewhat close, but really they're not.

BTW, I actually watch the Ducks, it's no east-coast-biased-just-run-my-calculator sort of thing. Pronger's never jaw-dropping, but he's beyond solid this year.

Scott would be MVP on a lot of other teams, probably, but (good for the Ducks) he's not on this team. Not this far into this season, anyway.

At 8:45 p.m., November 28, 2006, Blogger James Mirtle said...

People who regularly read this site know that a) I'm a transplanted West Coaster and b) the games I see have about a 70/30 split in favour of the West.

Centre Ice is great for someone like me.

At 11:19 p.m., November 28, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where did Rick say "let's just vote for the guy who skates the sexiest"?

My MVP pick (so far): Sidney Crosby. But there's a lot -- A LOT -- of season left.

At 11:35 p.m., November 28, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Crosby pretty much sewed up the Hart by NOT playing last week. The Pens went back to being the useless AHL team they were last year, scoring three goals in three games. He's back tonight and they win, in the process making Colby Armstrong resemble an actual NHL player, a miracle he performed about 40 different times last season.

At 12:55 a.m., November 29, 2006, Blogger Earl Sleek said...

Where did Rick say "let's just vote for the guy who skates the sexiest"?

Sorry, that was my own phrase. I was combining the spirit of "if you actually watch the Ducks" with the notion of "he may have less points, but he's the man".

Niedermayer is a ton of fun to watch and makes incredible plays. No doubt.

But Pronger's getting the results, by a pretty good margin, and that's gotta matter.

At 6:13 a.m., November 29, 2006, Blogger The Puck Stops Here said...

I support Nicklas Lidstrom as MVP right now.

At 11:32 a.m., November 29, 2006, Blogger Nick said...

I agree, Lidstrom has truly been amazing this season. He doesn't get the credit he deserves (which says a lot since he gets a lot of credit) Imagine the press he'd get if he were a center.


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