Friday, March 09, 2007

Guess the length of Simon's suspension

Where will Colin Campbell's wheel of justice fall?

"Let's just see if Colin Campbell finally does something about this stuff and doesn't give him three games like he gave that other meathead from New Jersey," Sean Avery said.

UPDATE Personally, I think Simon should receive somewhere in the neighbourhood of 20-25 games (or a suspension until next season should the Islanders go on an extended playoff run). I've got no tolerance for stick work that obviously falls into the 'attempt to injure' category.

Hockey's a game you play with what is essentially a weapon in your hands at all times; it should never actually be used as one. Had Simon struck Hollweg a few inches lower, it could have been a dangerous whack to the throat. Had he hit him a few inches higher, we could be talking about the loss of an eye or possible brain injury.

That, for lack of a better term, is just flat out stupid, and it shouldn't have any place in hockey. I'm absolutely on board with the movement that says Campbell et al need to start putting some real teeth into these suspensions, and that starts at the 20-game mark.

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63 Comments:

At 1:29 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger dave@etd said...

brutal - he's gone till the play-offs, maybe even till next season.

 
At 1:41 AM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous JTE said...

15 games. Not what I think is right, just my guess.

 
At 1:50 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger The Hack said...

No more than a dozen. Likely ten.

 
At 1:53 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger d-lee said...

I honestly think Campbell will do the right thing. I think he'll give Simon the gate until next season. I also guess that Simon retires.

 
At 2:00 AM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous David Johnson said...

He should get at minimum the rest of the season but I suspect he gets no more than 10 games.

 
At 3:45 AM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dont know how long the suspension will be, but it will be deserved. On the flip side though, when you check someone from behind face-first into the boards, you got to expect some payback. Who was that clown announcer calling that a *clean hit*?

 
At 5:43 AM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous Baroque said...

I guess seven games. Is someone starting a pool?

(And I expect that Hollweg would not have been surprised to get some response. He probably figured it would be proportionate and he would have expected a hard hit into the boards himself, not a whack across the face.)

 
At 7:41 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger PPP said...

Brutal is right. You Campbell could send a message and end Simon's career but I am guessing that the wheel lands somewhere between 5 and 15 games.

It's a good thing that each team has a goon out there policing the game so that stuff like that doesn't happen. And Bettman must be happy to see the NHL make ESPN. [/sarcasm]

 
At 8:08 AM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous Lyle Richardson said...

For once, Sean Avery said something intelligent.

 
At 8:46 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger Jason said...

I'm calling three games. Kaberle didn't cheapshot anyone before getting plowed, and Janssen only got three games.

This is a worse hit than the one that took down Kaberle, but Hollweg has to expect that Simon isn't going to be pleased with getting boarded.

 
At 8:59 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger Tom L said...

Lyle, that might be the most surprisingthing about this entire incident... :)

WTF Simon?

Ta,

 
At 9:01 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger Sherry said...

Given that this happened three years to the day of Bertuzzi and Moore I'm betting Campbell will have to pull his head out of wherever it is currently lodged and spin the wheel real good.

Artist's rendition of the Wheel of Justice

 
At 9:34 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger PPP said...

With the anniversary of Bertuzzi's assault and this attack it is the perfect storm for Campbell to lay down the law.

McSorley got until the next February and that effectively ended his career. Let's hope for something similar for Simon.

 
At 9:45 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger Doogie said...

Should be? 8-10
Will be? 3-5

 
At 9:52 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger FAUXRUMORS 2 said...

1) While we agree that Simon is likely 'done' as you wrote its NOT because he deserves it. It'll be because of all the negative media hype surrounding this incident
2) For starters Hollweg barely missed a shift. He should have been whistled for a 2 or 5 minute boarding major against Simon.
3) If fighting was allowed as it should be(its rare in the final 5 minutes of a game) Simon would have dropped his gloves and rearranged Ryan's face. In the New NHL fighting is discouraged. If anything this incident shows the true necessity of pugilism.
4) Sadly the anti-fighting faction will use this as a demonstration of how 'violence' is hurting hockey.
5) Simon would have recieved about 5 games if this wasn't blown WAY out of proportion. Now he'll be lucky to get 15.

 
At 9:59 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger PPP said...

HE SLASHED A GUY IN THE FACE!

Simon and Holweg are both lucky that he is okay because he could easily be in a lot more trouble.

The instigator rule has nothing to do with this incident. Does anyone actually believe that Simon thought 'Darn, in the old days I would have just punched him but now I'll get thrown out of the game so I'll SLASH HIM IN THE FACE!'

Get a clue.

 
At 10:14 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger Daniel said...

While I think slashing in anyway is wrong, no matter where you slash someone, I do not think he was trying to him in the face at all. The chest is more likely the area, because that would send the right message of 'You hit me with a cheap shot'. It is unfortunate, because it seems to ride up his arms.

Tell you what, look at Chris Simon's eyes as he starts his swing, he is looking right as Hollweg's chest. I am not a Chris Simon fan at all, I think he is kind of goonish, but I think this is blown out of the water.

 
At 10:17 AM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

FAUXRUMOURS:... Im pretty sure that 2-handing a guy across his grill is just a discouraged as fighting. So please explain how this, as you say, "is blown WAY out of proportion"

 
At 10:21 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger ninja said...

How many games did Emery get again? 3? I think Colon will double that.

 
At 10:23 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger PPP said...

Aiming for his chest? Simon is taller, he was looking down to make sure he caught him flush in the face.

Suggesting that he was aiming for the chest sounds like McSorley saying he was aiming for Brashear's shoulder.

 
At 10:37 AM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Simon gets the rest of the season. Hollweg gets nothing. The NHL is once again a joke.

 
At 10:40 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger PPP said...

Anonymous, should you be drunk this early in the morning?

 
At 10:51 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger teebs said...

I find the hit disgusting but, with the way suspensions go in the NHL 9- 12 games is all I see Simon receiving. I think it should be the rest of the season and the playoffs.

 
At 10:55 AM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous Mike said...

My first reaction to Hollweg's hit was "Oh man that was a little dirty Holly" I wasn't overly thrilled with it, but upon watching it again I don't think it was all too bad. He didn't plow into him like he could have and like he's done to people before and he caught a sizeable portion of the side of Chris Simon. But to have his reaction be a vicious, brutal overtly intentional two hand slash to face. My god. Throw the book at this guy. Why do you think our sport is such a joke to most people? These are the clips that make Sportscenter in the states. The image of the game that this projects is just awful. Gone for the season. At least that's what I'm hoping.

 
At 11:02 AM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous Lyle Richardson said...

Blown out of proportion?

As PPP so eloquently put it:

HE SLASHED A GUY IN THE FACE!!!!!!

It doesn't matter if he meant to slash him in the face. The fact remains that HE SLASHED A GUY IN THE FACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Blown out of proportion, my ass. He deserves to be fined and suspended for the rest of the season AND the playoffs for his action.

If he'd caught Hollweg in the temple or across the throat, we could be talking about criminal charges for involuntary manslaughter.

It's long overdue for the league to start taking these incidents seriously. If he gets off with five or seven games, that'll do nothing to deter this sort of thing in the future.

And if he gets less than five games, congratulations, the NHL just became pro wrestling on ice. What the hell, next time, grab a chair from the bench and waffle your opponent. All you'll get is five games and a stern talking to from Campbell's Cream of Spineless Soup!

 
At 11:25 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger J. Michael Neal said...

4) Sadly the anti-fighting faction will use this as a demonstration of how 'violence' is hurting hockey.

You're damned right I will. Again, I will point out that fighting really is prohibited in the NCAA. One game suspension for throwing punches. Two game suspension for a second offense, and the season for a third. And yet, you don't ever see anything like this in american college hockey. No one SLASHES SOMEONE IN THE FACE. Sure, Jason Blake was willing to take an axe swing on Brett Abrahamson's hand, but no SLASHING IN THE FACE.

Fighting does not clena up the game. It's really that simple.

 
At 11:39 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger Nick said...

He slashed him in the face, give me a break. He needs to be out the rest of the season. This has nothing to do with being lax on fighting in the game.There's no honor in a cheapshot assult with a weapon

 
At 11:45 AM, March 09, 2007, Blogger McLea said...

And yet, you don't ever see anything like this in american college hockey. No one SLASHES SOMEONE IN THE FACE.

You know that face shields are mandatory in american college hockey right? So, dare I suggest, that maybe you don't see slashes to the face in college hockey because it would be remarkably stupid thing to do if you were looking to inflict punishment on someone, tantamount to punching an opposing player in the helmet during a football fight.

 
At 12:06 PM, March 09, 2007, Blogger Bryon said...

Simon's hit was worse than what McSorely did to Brashear. He deserves at least 15 games.

 
At 12:09 PM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To play devil's advocate, if intent is not a consideration - i.e. the simple act of the slash is what merits the suspension - where was the outcry when Justin "El Zorro" Williams carved out Saku Koivu's eyeball last spring? Or the very next game where he skated across the blueline and nearly took someone else's head off with his stick (was it Markov? can't remember).
For my money, as long as the NHL refuses to penalize boarding, charging and head shots, we are going to see more stick swinging, not less. Until someone dies.
- Art V.

 
At 12:18 PM, March 09, 2007, Blogger PPP said...

Art, what would you say was Simon's intent? His intent was to injure in retaliation for the hit. He wasn't trying to swat a bug off of Hollweg's face.

How can you compare the play involving Koivu? Williams was trying to lift his stick. Simon was swinging for the fences and using Hollweg as a tee.

 
At 12:28 PM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

is hollweg able to get up yet or is he still motionless on the ice?

simon out for the rest of the season. please stop bringing up the McSorley incident. i hate mcsorley, but the forceof that tap could never have brought down brashear if he wasn't selling it. too bad his helment came off when he went down.

if bertuzzi got only 20 games for stalking a guy two months after a "clean" hit than why would this be any more than the 16 or so that lead up to the playoffs.

 
At 12:45 PM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a Canucks fan, so I have no horse in this race, but I am a hockey player - that was no cheap shot by HOllweg or whatever his name is. Look at it again: he went shoulder to shoulder with Simon. Simon was turning to get away from him so the force of the hit put him face up against the glass. Still, it's not like they were a few feet away from the boards and he went in head first.

Either way, cheap shot or no, there's ZERO excuse for swinging your stick like a bat at a guy's throat. He should be suspended at least the year.

Forget what the injury was or wasn't. You're punishing the act, not the injury!

Should get: Season and playoffs to life

Will get: 10-12 games

 
At 1:00 PM, March 09, 2007, Blogger Sherry said...

It looks like Simon's been suspended indefinitely.

Guess the wheel did its job this time!

 
At 1:05 PM, March 09, 2007, Blogger John said...

I didn't realize Bobby Knight was a hockey fan...

Since the Drury hit there has been a common thread to the discussion here. Blame the victim... He should have had his head up, he should have had his helmet strapped on, he should have expected retaliation....

There aren't any Mother Theresa's skating on the rink, but that doesn't give anyone the right to two hand a guy to the face (or neck, or shoulder, or collarbone, or....)

Apply the bar fight standard here. Is it a cheap shot to swing a pool cue to the face of a guy walking away? If it's a cheap shot in a bar fight...

 
At 1:08 PM, March 09, 2007, Blogger Afino said...

Anonymous...

How in the hell can you compare Justin Williams/Saku Koivu to this???

Yeah, I'm sure Williams was trying to "carve out his eyeball"....

I know it's usually hard to judge intent, but isn't it obvious to you that this was intent to bring serious harm??

 
At 1:58 PM, March 09, 2007, Blogger Kel said...

I'm not sure how the initial hit on Simon into the board is "clean". It's borderline within the NHL rules.

"
Rule 42.1 Boarding - A boarding penalty shall be imposed on any player or goalkeeper who checks an opponent in such a manner that causes the opponent to be thrown violently in the boards...
"

In this case, Simon is too far away from the boards to be "thrown" and he seemed aware of the coming hit. However, I don't think any borderline check should be called clean.

Of course, the above in no way justifies what Simon did afterwards. It looked like he was trying to crosscheck and realized that he was about to miss his victim, so he swung his stick hard to ensure it got him.

 
At 1:58 PM, March 09, 2007, Blogger Kel said...

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At 2:00 PM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not a lawyer, but I'll play one on the internet. Bertuzzi dropping Moore is condemned for being a pre-meditated act, borne of malice of forethought. Simon's act was an act of passion, done in the heat of the battle. If Bertuzzi is still playing (sorta) I don't see Simon getting more than 20 games.
Violent disregard for your opponent is a continuum, not a line in the sand. It starts with "finishing your check" (even if it means hospitalizing the other guy) through fisticuffs (which is condemned in every other sport on earth and in real life) all the way to swinging your stick. To suggest that assault with a stick should result in a lifetime suspension while assault with fists or armour-plated equipment should not only go unpunished but be lauded, is exactly why hockey will never be taken seriously by civilized people.
Since the NHL refuses to penalize cheapshots, I predict an increase in line brawls and stick-swinging. The players will find a way to police themselves one way or another.
- Art V.

 
At 2:36 PM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Art V., Canucks fan here. Not sure if you're referring to my post, but I don't think Bertuzzi's act should have gone unpunished or should be lauded. Still, I think you go too far in saying that it was premeditated and not at all in the heat of passion. On a sliding scale between the two, I'd agree that it should fall closer to premeditation, but premeditation to what? Not injure. I think Bert just wanted to kick his ass, Moore chickened out and skated away, and Bert (inexcusably) wouldn't take no for an answer. Still, the events took place within a rough and tumble game that was out of hand score-wise. It wasn't like the puck dropped and Bert went after him. This was in the 3rd period.

Anyway, back to Simon. I don't care what you say about how stupid fighting is, it's part of the game. Stick swinging is in no way shape or form part of the game.

Should Bertuzzi have attacked from behind? Hell no. But he was trying to fight, which is part of the game.

Passion or not, guys get boarded, slashed, spit on, kicked, etc. every game and figure out other ways to respond. Stick swinging is beyond the pale and is what almost killed Wayne Maki.

 
At 2:55 PM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous oldnumberseven said...

What suprised me about the whole thing was afterwards there was not a full on bench clearing, both goalies, donnybrook.

 
At 3:04 PM, March 09, 2007, Blogger PPP said...

I think that the refs did a good job of getting into the middle of the building pile to prevent a line brawl.

 
At 3:21 PM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous alice said...

What suprised me about the whole thing was afterwards there was not a full on bench clearing, both goalies, donnybrook.

Watching it live, it looked as if Lundquist skated toward the scrum, realized that Hollweg was down and not moving, and energetically waved for the trainer.

 
At 7:13 PM, March 09, 2007, Blogger dbushik said...

He'll be out the remainder of the season and the playoffs, with a requirement to get approval to return at the start of next year. Just like Bert and Marty...

 
At 7:17 PM, March 09, 2007, Blogger John Richardson said...

The hit was clean. It's not boarding by anyone's interpretation of the rule book.

Hollweg didn't leave his feet, didn't have his hands up and skated around to the side of Simon to avoid hitting him from behind.

I'd give Simon the rest of the regular season.

 
At 7:30 PM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess I wonder why fighting is a part of hockey at all. It is not allowed in any civilized sport. There's plenty of hitting in football and the NFL specifically protects players against egregious contact. It is simply not tolerated.
The argument that fighting is part of hockey doesn't bear scrutiny. Men used to beat their wives, too. We got past it.
Pierre Mcguire was on Team 1040 in Vancouver today and he basically said there shouldn't be a need for retribution of any kind, whether with fists, sticks or otherwise, if only the refs called penalties properly. That said, McGuire suggested Hollweg's hit was borderline; i.e. he wasn't willing to say it was a dirty hit. I think that's indicative of how far down the road we've gone in considering charging/boarding/headshots/blindsiding "just part of the game."
Respectfully,
Art V.

 
At 8:15 PM, March 09, 2007, Blogger Kel said...

The hit was clean. It's not boarding by anyone's interpretation of the rule book.

john, it's not clean. It's barely legal (Simon was hit into the boards, despite not "thrown violently" because he was not too far away from the board ). I wouldn't call a penalty on the hit, but I wouldn't call it clean either. To me, clean is a higher standard, like an open ice hit of upper bodies from the side or front which does not result in any player hitting the boards, unless the player was touching the board before the hit.

 
At 8:28 PM, March 09, 2007, Blogger Andy Grabia said...

Sean Avery called someone else a meathead? How is that not a story in its own right?

 
At 10:53 PM, March 09, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I cannot believe that people are talking about 20 games like it is a long time for what he did.

If that shot was a few inches lower Hollweg would be DEAD or paralyzed.

Throw Simon out of Hockey, and put his sorry ass in jail for 6 months.

 
At 11:18 PM, March 09, 2007, Blogger J. Michael Neal said...

You know that face shields are mandatory in american college hockey right?

Upon reviewing my leftover ticket stubs to University of Minnesota hockey, I find that I am, indeed, aware that the players wear faceshields. I am also aware that two-handed swings to the head can be quite injurious even with a face shield. College hockey doesn't see anything like this. It doesn't see players getting injured on hits to the head nearly as frequently as the NHL does. It does not see assaults like Bertuzzi's. It also does not have guys getting hurt by punches to the face.

In addition to all of the other problems, hockey fights are boring. They really are crappy fights. If you want to watch fights, ESPN has a show called, appropriately enough, Friday Night Fights. The stuff there is of much higher quality than any two hockey players going at it. For even better fights, HBO or Showtime has top notch fighters on most weekends.

Fighting is much better when you just have fighting, and hockey is better when you just have hockey.

 
At 12:11 AM, March 10, 2007, Blogger McLea said...

See Neal, what you're describing is what we up here in Canada like to call "ringette."

And does anyone else get a kick out of the guys who bitch and bitch about violence in hockey? I mean, I don't see how it's any different than someone tuning into a rugby game and thinking "Man, this is way too violent. I would find this sport for more enjoyable if they removed the brutality and allowed the finesse players to exhibit their skill." Christ, if you don't like violence, why are you watching hockey? Watch tennis. Or golf. Or the Home and Garden Network

Seriously, you just got to love these people that think that professional sports should change in order to accommodate their own hyper-sensitivities.

And to anyone who thinks hockey would better without violence, I point you towards women's hockey.

The defense rests.

 
At 1:27 AM, March 10, 2007, Blogger J. Michael Neal said...

See Neal, what you're describing is what we up here in Canada like to call "ringette."

Wow. Canadians are just as good as Americans at claiming someone said something that they never did. If you want to be sarcastic, nitwit, you're better off if you actually respond to what people say.

Try again.

 
At 2:56 AM, March 10, 2007, Anonymous Baroque said...

Christ, if you don't like violence, why are you watching hockey?

(Even though my name isn't Christ, I'll take a stab at this one.)

Just a guess, but maybe for the speed and skating and goal-scoring and hits and amazing saves and well-executed power plays and big penalty kills and end-to-end rushes and beautiful give-and-goes and phenomenal overtime finishes...and watching Alexander Ovechkin and Sidney Crosby and Anze Kopitar and Paul Stastny and Henrik Zetterberg and Jarome Iginla et al. play hockey instead of rehab from injuries inflicted by cheapshots from the players supposedly on the ice to "protect" them.

And I agree, hockey fights are boring. Usually a couple of guys wrestling a while with wild swings at each other until one of them falls over, the officials pull them apart, and then everyone waits while they pick up the gloves and sticks and finally get back to the game. It's a good time to go to the kitchen, though, because I know I won't miss any game action.

 
At 4:47 AM, March 10, 2007, Blogger Doogie said...

The other thing to bear in mind is that the NCAA also probably punishes cheap shots to the point where players rarely feel the need for retribution, knowing that someone is in a massive pot of deep boiling shit for doing (dirty act X). Similarly, fear of the NCAA's wrath probably keeps most sticks down and hits clean.

Until the NHL decides to enforce its own rules consistently and stringently, though, on-ice retribution makes perfect sense, considering human nature, and I have no problem with it at all. The League simply needs to make up its mind: is it going to get rid of fighting, in which case, get rid of it, but also call the rules a lot tougher than they have, or let it go, in which case, get rid of the instigator, and as long as the guys don't get out of hand, turn a blind eye. The latter is how the NHL was run for much of its first 75 years, as well as the WHA and the various other North American pro leagues over a similar time period. The former is collegiate, European, or women's hockey. The NHL is in an unhappy medium that doesn't really satisfy anyone, and probably needs to re-examine its direction.

 
At 10:37 AM, March 10, 2007, Blogger McLea said...

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At 10:45 AM, March 10, 2007, Blogger McLea said...

If you want to be sarcastic, nitwit, you're better off if you actually respond to what people say.

Respond to what? Do you even have a point? People aren't two handing each other in the face in Canadian Junior Hokcey either, and fighting is 20 times more prevalent in the junior leagues than it is in the NHL. Getting rid of fighting isn't going to change human nature. It didn't keep Ron Artest from going after a fan in the stands, and it doesn't prevent soccer players from occasionally kicking each other in the face with their cleats.

As long as intense athletic competition exists, you're going to see instances like this, regardless of how much violence you legislate out of the game. If you ask me, the Chris Simon incident had nothing to do with fighting and everything to do with an angry man who made a rash, split second decision with a stick in his hands.

 
At 11:18 PM, March 10, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I gotta say. Im all for hockey being a tough physical game where guys will stick up for one another when needed because toughness is one of the things hockey is built on unlike basketball players who cant even slap eachother, but this belatenant cheapshot is absolutely unacceptable. I would say that he is suspened for what is left of the season, and possibly for some of the beginning of the next season. The league needs to sent the message saying we're not gonna have this anymore. Absolutely unacceptabe

 
At 7:04 PM, March 11, 2007, Blogger marbradok said...

ok whoever that anonymous person is who said that wasnt a clean check has his head up his ass. players shouldnt have their heads down towards the boards. thats simon's own fault. hockey is all about predetermined actions. if he wouldve been paying attention, he would have got himself ready for hollweg's hit. but instead he got hit into the boards and slashed hollweg in the face. which is unacceptable in hockey. there have been other instances with suspensions towards simon too. he should NOT be allowed to play in the NHL. hockey is chris simon's career or job. and you dont let your anger get to you when your at work. you just dont. chris simon fucked up bad and his NHL career should be over and even looked down upon by most.

 
At 8:16 PM, March 11, 2007, Blogger huntzee said...

that was not a clean hit and the nhl needs to start addressing the hitting from behind issue.. it's getting out of hand. Officials are not calling these from behind hits and I would be furious if I was Simon because careers can be ended by hitting from behind. I've never heard of someone's career end from receiving some lumber in the teeth. Simon should have just knuckled him but i understand how frustrating getting hit with your back turned is so whatever. The suspension is ridiculous. The hit on Kaberle was way more vicious than some lumber in the teeth... why are people turning a blind eye to the hitting from behind. necks and backs are harder to repair than teeth.

 
At 8:24 PM, March 11, 2007, Blogger huntzee said...

That was in no way a clean hit. It was clearly from behind and I can't sportscasters are going out of their way to say it was a clean hit. It sounds like they are trying to brainwash people. Anyways, a hit from behind can end a hockey player's career. That's their livelyhood. I don't blame Simon for flipping out when being nailed with his back turned. Who has ever had their career halted by some lumber in the teeth? The NHL needs to start calling these vicious hits from behind. Growing up in minor hockey, our coaches always told us, "if you can see the number on his jersey, then don't hit him" Then you watch a pro game and no one respects that. You see it more and more because guys know they won't get called for it. The suspension is bullshite and I hope someone brings to light the nasty hit Simon received before unleashing his anger. I can't believe it... i really can't... If the refs are gonna let the checking from behind go, then players should at least fear the lumber to the teeth when they go to nail someone who can't even see them.

 
At 8:30 PM, March 11, 2007, Blogger huntzee said...

some people in here are idiots and must be pussies. In the old days, he definately would've got slashed in the face and their were many guys who were known for using the lumber,,, including Gordie Howe. Back then they would've got coincidental minors. So don't be such pussies. Like I said before, a severe injury is more likely a result of a check from behind than lumber to the teeth. The media makes me sick too..brainwashing people ... lil PUSSIES

 
At 2:20 PM, March 12, 2007, Blogger PPP said...

Even though those last 3 comments are not anonymous will they still go in your hall of fame James?

 
At 9:25 PM, March 21, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

little slash to the CHIN - drew blood.
5 minutes in the sin bin.
resume play ...
whats all the hoopla about ?

 

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