Saturday, October 20, 2007

The return of the Blues

The resurgence of the St. Louis Blues, on and off the ice, reached another milestone last week when revenues for tickets sold for the current 2007-2008 season surpassed the total for the entire 2006-2007 season.
>> team release
John Davidson has done an amazing job there.

20 Comments:

At 6:42 PM, October 20, 2007, Anonymous Ehijo said...

Amen.

 
At 7:13 PM, October 20, 2007, Anonymous Gerald said...

Impressive, no two ways about it.

 
At 1:51 AM, October 21, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It makes you wonder just how much of the 'woes' of the NHL are just incompetence? When you get talented, committed, capitalized management, success follows.

 
At 4:30 AM, October 21, 2007, Anonymous beingbobbyorr said...

It makes you wonder just how much of the 'woes' of the NHL are just incompetence? When you get talented, committed, capitalized management, success follows.

"Hello, Phil Anshutz and the LA Kings? This is your wake-up call."

 
At 10:18 AM, October 21, 2007, Anonymous Gerald said...

It makes you wonder just how much of the 'woes' of the NHL are just incompetence?

It makes me wonder how much of the NHL's "woes" are just mindless bellyaching by hockey "fans" with zero business acumen who just don't feel so "comfortable", shall I say, with a commissioner who is just a little too short for them, who speaks with an accent they don't like and who is just not "la laine pur", if you catch my drift.

 
At 12:37 PM, October 21, 2007, Anonymous sv said...

Gerald you're completely out of line with your last comment. While I don't agree with you all of the time I appreciate your point of view. What I take issue with is your tone. You seem to think belittling those who don't agree with you helps your case.And today you took it too far, first questioning whether those who dislike Gary Bettman are real fans. Far worse, however, is your suggestion that this dislike is, if I catch your drift, based in racism.

 
At 2:26 PM, October 21, 2007, Anonymous vadimsharifijanov said...

sv, while i don't necessarily agree with gerald's comment, there is something to it. yes, of course -- bettman has been a terrible commissioner and his vision of an america-friendly NHL are misguided. but -- a lot of this "new york lawyer" talk about him (kypreos is one of the worst offenders in the media, i think, as is, of course, cherry) is really just veiled antisemitism. so this is not to say that there aren't many many valid criticisms of bettman and it's certainly not to say that many fans who are critical of him don't back up their opinions with valid arguments, merely that a noticeable portion of the anti-bettman sentiment among fans and in the media is racist and to ignore is to be, i think, wilfully naive.

 
At 2:35 PM, October 21, 2007, Anonymous Gerald said...

Sorry if you do not like the message, but if you think that it does not play a factor in some - certainly not all, but some - people's dislike of Bettman, then in my opinion (to which I am entitled), you are kidding yourself. You certainly must not have been paying much attention to the hockey message boards over the past numbers of years, including some of the comments made online in response to articles in the comments section of James' paper. Naturally no one ever comes right out and says it, but it is not too difficult to crack the code that they use.

As I said above, it is not all of them, but those who feel that way know who they are.

As to the fandom of people who go around saying "I am this close to being done with the NHL because of what Bettman has done to the game", and similar statements that we have all read, I stand by my statement. If they are turned off of the GAME by its administration, they should not let the door hit them on the way out.

 
At 2:37 PM, October 21, 2007, Anonymous Gerald said...

I see someone beat me to it while I was composing my post, and said it better. It is time someone did.

 
At 3:43 PM, October 21, 2007, Anonymous vadimsharifijanov said...

you know, i was once issued a warning on a prominent hockey message board for bringing this up, linking to a column by someone (i think terry frei) who made a very subtle reference to it. as is wont to happen on this message board when political issues were being discussed, they called me a paranoiac and either discredited frei by dissecting his on-ice content (it was, of course, easy to do so because frei is a terrible hockey writer), or discussed the hockey argument in what was otherwise a pedestrian and completely unremarkable and irrelevant article, completely ignoring the fact that, finally, someone in the mainstream sports press had the guts to draw attention to all of this antisemitic "new york lawyer" talk.

seaking of which... james?

 
At 3:50 PM, October 21, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, the perceived financial problems of several teams are caused by hockey fans who are brain-dead bigots, then?

 
At 2:48 AM, October 22, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What does being a Hebrew midget have to do with the fact Bettman does't know squat about hockey? He's a lawyer (Strike 1). From New York, NY, USA (arguably Strikew 2, 3 and 4) who comes from a basketball background (probably strike 5).

 
At 9:25 AM, October 22, 2007, Anonymous sv said...

Gerald-yesterday's comment was pre-coffee. I see by some of the follow ups that you had a point.

 
At 1:03 PM, October 22, 2007, Anonymous Gerald said...

Noted and thanks. The poster two posts above has done more to demonstrate my point than I ever could have done.

 
At 1:28 PM, October 22, 2007, Blogger Kel said...

I don't think anyone has mentioned this point, but the fact that the St Louis Blues is doing well in the standings, which accounts for a much better financial picture, means that one or more teams are doing worse in the standings than before. Would that translate into worse revenue in those cities? It depends but there's a real chance that the net effect of the Blues having a better record is a lower league wide revenue. It's not very likely because winners of last season probably already sold a lot of tickets already. It's interesting to think that an accelerated change of winners and losers may increase overall revenue, because winners of last season (losers of this season) have already sold a lot of tickets before the season started, and the winner of this seasons can still start pocket the profit from their improvement in the standings. Maybe that's part of the reasons why they want a salary cap to make good teams last a shorter time to accelerate this turnover.

 
At 2:53 PM, October 22, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then again Gerald, maybe there are people that dislike Bettman for reasons that do not include being anti-semites.

Just a thought but way to smear all hockey fans that dislike Bettman instead of providing concrete examples like you did in James' post on revenues.

 
At 5:02 PM, October 22, 2007, Anonymous Gerald said...

I would think that someone with a strong view on an important subject would want to post their name rather than hide behind the comforting blanket of anonymity. Nevertheless, I would still point out to you my post above, wherein I said:

but if you think that it does not play a factor in some - certainly not all, but some - people's dislike of Bettman,

To me, "certainly not all, but some" is quite a ways away from "smearing" all folks who do not like Bettman.

As I also pointed out, it is not too difficult to crack the code that they use. Any reasonably intelligent or even merely observant person can tell when the code is being used.

Again, those who are, know they are. Those who are not, have nothing to be offended by, as undoubtedly they have at least tried to make a reasonable case for their position other than the fact that he is a "New Yawk lawyer" who "looks like The Count" and is a "Hebrew midget" and are above reproach. Unfortunately, I see much more of the former on boards these days.

 
At 5:07 PM, October 22, 2007, Blogger James Mirtle said...

How about that job that John Davidson's doing, hey guys?

 
At 5:39 PM, October 22, 2007, Anonymous Gerald said...

Yeah, talk about hijacking a thread. Sorry about my contribution to that, James.

I started a thread over on HF Boards as well once I read your post. The Blues' efforts should not go unnoticed.

 
At 12:33 PM, October 23, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gary Bettman does look like The Count. Was The Count Jewish? Is that why that's a sign of anti-semitism?

Davidson is doing a great job considering the mess the Blues were. Maybe it is really possible to turn things around relatively quickly in the New NHL.

 

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