Monday, April 14, 2008

Avery Rule passed

National Hockey League Senior Executive Vice President and Director of Hockey Operations Colin Campbell today issued the following advisory on the interpretation of Rule 75 - Unsportsmanlike Conduct: "An unsportsmanlike conduct minor penalty (Rule 75) will be interpreted and applied, effective immediately, to a situation when an offensive player positions himself facing the opposition goaltender and engages in actions such as waving his arms or stick in front of the goaltender's face, for the purpose of improperly interfering with and/or distracting the goaltender as opposed to positioning himself to try to make a play."
>> league release
Well, that didn't take long at all.

Now, about that goaltending equipment...
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At 2:57 PM, April 14, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As Brent Leroy's Dad would say about Avery - "Jackass"

 
At 3:20 PM, April 14, 2008, Blogger Doogie said...

Yup, Marty Brodeur has officially jumped the shark. He lets in crappy goals during the playoffs and gets two bullshit rules passed in three seasons single-handedly.

 
At 3:31 PM, April 14, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now if they allow Brodeur to pass the rule that goaltenders wear equipment according to their size we would be making real progress.

 
At 3:32 PM, April 14, 2008, Blogger James Mirtle said...

Brodeur's comments afterwards were actually pretty muted. I think the league would have made this move regardless of who the netminder involved was.

 
At 3:51 PM, April 14, 2008, Blogger Kel said...

I think this should fall under goaltender interference, especially as there was already a precedent. (As I mentioned in the other post, Bertuzzi was once called for goalie interference for placing his hand in front of a goalie's face to intentionally block the goalie's view of the puck. And it was before Steve Moore came into the league.)

 
At 3:51 PM, April 14, 2008, Blogger Paul Nicholson said...

Is there a precedent for something being legal in one game and illegal in the next in the middle of a playoff series?

Whether you agree that there needs to be a rule and what Avery did was wrong or not, you have to admit that aspect of this is a bit strange.

 
At 3:53 PM, April 14, 2008, Blogger Matt said...

Sorry--what was the other Brodeur rule?

 
At 4:03 PM, April 14, 2008, Blogger Adam C said...

Is there a precedent for something being legal in one game and illegal in the next in the middle of a playoff series?

Heh. I think Sabres fans might give you an earful on this topic.

Seriously, though, I'm disappointed that the referees didn't just dump Avery in the box right then and there. Misconduct/unsportsmanlike conduct penalties are available for a reason - as Kel has already pointed to. And as Mirtle summed it up, none of us wants to see this kind of display as part of a hockey game.

The Rangers might have put up a whine, but I think they would have garnered far less sympathy across the hockey community than Nashville's complaint.

 
At 4:06 PM, April 14, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guess there is now a rulle against being a Scarberian poseur that grew up too close to a Nuke plant and wants to be appear urbane by stealing Lisa Loebs glasses and black nail polish.

 
At 4:09 PM, April 14, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If anyone has a reason to whine in this series its the Devils after game two, where they get a penalty called against them in the offensive zone with under a minute left, get called for icing while short handed and then don't even get the cross-check/boarding call when trying to retrieve the puck.

Here all along I thought the Almighty Lou was all powerful, but it seems the officiating crews incompetence is his achilles heel.

 
At 4:12 PM, April 14, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

To be fair, it seems like Avery had a tad more to do with this rule passing than Marty.

 
At 4:19 PM, April 14, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

OK, so let's see if I've got this straight:

waiving arms in front of a cry-baby goalie incurs a two-minute penalty.

Cross-checking an opposing FW into the boards, causing him to miss 72 regular season games, incurs the same two-minute penalty.

Awesome.

Even hockey players are smart enough to figure out that they might as well just mow down the opposing goalie if the penalty is the same as playing Spaz in front of him.

Does Colin Campbell actually having an working limbic system?

 
At 4:30 PM, April 14, 2008, Blogger Pensgirl said...

Paul N., not to go all legalistic on you, but the way the NHL wrote this amendment means Avery's behavior was never legal (that he didn't actually get called is irrelevant). Because they simply clarified an existing rule rather than creating a new one, they're basically saying he should have been called.

Obviously, that doesn't do anything in terms of last night's game; it's really just a warning to anyone who might have ideas about trying anything else. The amendment puts players and refs alike on notice that "creative" agitation tactics are not going to be tolerated.

 
At 5:30 PM, April 14, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow, this might be the most controversial hockey incident that didn't involve some horrific injury to a player.

 
At 5:37 PM, April 14, 2008, Blogger robert cleave said...

Matt, IIRC, he led the push to get mirrored visors banned.

 
At 5:59 PM, April 14, 2008, Blogger mike said...

He disparages superior goalies in print as "weird", whines about rule changes that favor offense and flow, and divorces his wife to marry his sister-in-law. What a guy.

The real question is why is Avery so hated and Marty Brodeur so revered? Brodeur was never the difference-maker in any of the Devils' Cup wins, and for a supposedly great goalie he has been repeatedly outplayed in the playoffs by the likes of Ron Tugnutt and Johan Hedberg, not to mention other guys like Mike Richter and Patrick Roy.

 
At 6:05 PM, April 14, 2008, Blogger Nick said...

Even hockey players are smart enough to figure out that they might as well just mow down the opposing goalie if the penalty is the same as playing Spaz in front of him.

I've often wondered about that myself. If you're in the defensive zone and know you're probably going to get called for that hook, why not just be flagrant and get your money's worth?

 
At 6:09 PM, April 14, 2008, Anonymous Nael M. said...

I don't get how Brodeur's whiny here. Avery wasn't just waving his arms, he was also waving his stick, *right at Brodeur's head*. That's not distracting, that's dangerous. The NHL made the right move here.

 
At 10:10 PM, April 14, 2008, Blogger Adam C said...

Nael: If you don't like Brodeur, then he's being whiny. Otherwise, he's done exactly what every single other goalie in the league would have done.

Witness the guy who claims that Brodeur wasn't that important to any of the Devils' Cups...

 
At 1:20 AM, April 15, 2008, Anonymous desdemona said...

Do they have tonight's CBC intermission on YouTube somewhere? Several players were interviewed about Avery and only Joe Thornton said it was ingenious. Everyone else said that it was "different" or that they would have just punched him out.

 
At 7:01 AM, April 15, 2008, Blogger mike said...

I'm just curious Adam C--the first Devils' Cup win was a 4-0 sweep over the Red Wings where Brodeur was barely tested....on average the defense in front of him was the best in the NHL all three years they won the Cup. The only struggle they ever had in a Final was against the Anaheim Mighty Ducks, and even there Brodeur was badly outplayed by JS Giguere. He also nearly blew a 3-1 lead in that series.

No Scott Stevens, no Scott Niedermayer--no Stanley Cups in New Jersey.

I'm glad to see that Mr. C addressed my other concerns, like Brodeur's disgraceful personal life and the fact that he lost a playoff series (as a #1 seed no less) to Ron Tugnutt.

 
At 10:05 AM, April 15, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, Clarke got the trapezoid installed just to contain Brodeur. Now that is a bush move. GET RID OF THE TRAPEZOID!

Funny, Canadians will moan and whine about Brodeur, but who do they want in the net in the Dopelympics or the Worlds?

Yeah, right.

 
At 3:52 PM, April 15, 2008, Blogger Adam C said...

Mike: Stevens and Neidermeyer were/are both Hall of Fame defencemen. Got anybody else? Care to name the last team that won even a single Cup with a worse team in front of the goalie than the New Jersey Devils? How about that 2003 team where no Devil scored so much as 60 points or 30 goals? I'm sure they could have won playing in front of Cam Ward.

Patrick Roy lost a playoff series to Jon Casey. Dominic Hasek lost a playoff series to Brian Boucher.

The guy's got a career playoff GAA of 1.93. But I'm sure any goalie could have done that.

divorces his wife to marry his sister-in-law

You know, I'm not much for player's personal lives, but I haven't heard that he beat his wife or assaulted a journalist so I guess he's ahead there too.

 
At 4:47 PM, April 15, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also in Brodeur's defence, when Patrick Roy couldn't pass the drug test ,,,cough#sputter*gack,,,, declined to play in the Olympics, Brodeur stepped up. Not that a handful of victories over hockey powers such as Zimbabwe, Eubekistan and Lower Togo is anything to write on your Hall of Fame plaque, but still.
I see him as the modern Ken Dryden. Decent goalie on a great team.

 
At 4:59 PM, April 15, 2008, Blogger mike said...

Adam--my point is that Brodeur is the most overrated player in the NHL. Anytime he's won championships he's not been the best player on his team, which is pretty difficult to do when you're a multiple Cup-winning goaltender.

As far as refuting my point about the fact that great goalies do not consistently lose in the playoffs to inferior teams/inferior netminders, I think you've failed to address that. Arguably with the unbelievable talent in the Devils' organization on D and on their forward lines a case can be made for Brodeur actually SINKING his team's chances to become a full-fledged dynasty between the years 1995 and 2000. Their system doesn't necessarily promote offense, so to quote offensive numbers about the '03 Devils means nothing....they still had Scott Gomez and Patrik Elias on that team and I'd call both of them pretty solid offensive players.

Avery may be a pig, but he's a good player, and what he did should've been penalized by the refs. The fact that it wasn't underscores the idea behind Avery's actions--namely that what he did was not specifically defined as a penalty by the league at that time. Some players would be called savvy to work such a loophole in the legality of the game....but never Sean Avery, I guess.

 
At 7:35 PM, April 15, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe someday the NHL can hand out the "Avery Award" every year to the player who displays the worst sportsmanship?

 
At 10:13 PM, April 15, 2008, Blogger Adam C said...

Arguably with the unbelievable talent in the Devils' organization on D and on their forward lines

I'm done. While I admit Scott Gomez was the most offensively gifted 13 goal scorer in the entire league, I don't think this discussion is going anywhere.

 
At 7:01 AM, April 16, 2008, Blogger mike said...

Just let me know when Brodeur wins a Cup without Stevens and Niedermayer, OK?

If Gomez is good enough to be on the US National team again and again, I guess he must be pretty good at something.

 
At 11:51 AM, April 16, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Brodeur has been named to the Canadian Olympic team again and again as well, but that gold medal really doens't amount to much compared to Gomez's participation award it seems.

Seems the Vezina is usually awarded to the most pretty good goalie in the league as well. Guess Queen Hank isn't very good either considering he consistently lost to the Islanders this year as well. Great goalies should never lose to a team below them in the standings.

 
At 12:06 PM, April 17, 2008, Blogger mike said...

Nice goal Brodeur let in last night on Marc Staal's 80-foot, unscreened shot with 3:13 left in a 3-3 tie in game 4's third period.

He really IS the greatest ever, all of you Brodeur defenders have once again proven me wrong.

That's 5 softies in four games this year, added to his already massive collection of soft goals allowed in the playoffs.

And I guess according to the Isles fan's logic above, DiPietro was the best goalie in the NY area because he had a winning record against the Devils and the Rangers. Too bad they finished in last place in the Eastern Conference, it's really weird how such a great goalie like "DP" DiPietro can allow his team to be so good at sucking......

 

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