Tuesday, April 15, 2008

Introducing Hockey-Reference.com

Hockeydb might have some competition.

I just received an email from Justin Kubatko, vice-president of Sports Reference LLC, the company behind sites like Baseball-Reference, saying they've launched a hockey site full of similar statistics, some of which aren't widely available.

Want to see the all-time list of 301 NHLers born in British Columbia? Right here.

Some great stuff there.

If you have suggestions for the site, post them below and I'll pass them along.

UPDATE The Player Season Finder is brilliant and will really speed up some of the historical stats tidbits I put up here.
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At 3:02 PM, April 15, 2008, Blogger Freeptop said...

I'll be surprised if they can get all the information, but I'd love to see player jersey numbers listed on the per-year team rosters as well.

 
At 3:48 PM, April 15, 2008, Anonymous BDH said...

well, there goes my work day... week... month...

 
At 4:23 PM, April 15, 2008, Blogger J. Michael Neal said...

Sean Forman, the guy who created baseball-reference.com, is fantastic. He ran the place until December, and is now president of the company. I have sponsored pages there in the past, and will probably do so again once I am employed. I assume that hockey-reference will be as high quality.

I like the information at HockeyDb, but I find the site hard to use. I probably won't use it again, unless there is something very specific that I want that hockey-reference doesn't have.

 
At 5:25 PM, April 15, 2008, Blogger islesblogger said...

@freeptop,

All that information is available in each teams respective media guide.

James - thanks for the info, another great resource indeed.

 
At 5:30 PM, April 15, 2008, Blogger Paul F said...

IIHF tournament rosters and stats are probably too much to ask. Many times I've tried to hunt down WJC rosters, finding it a huge pain.

Otherwise: it's about time! hockeydb was frustrating at times. Baseball-reference is invaluable, I'm looking forward to what they can do with hockey.

 
At 5:35 PM, April 15, 2008, Blogger Paul Nicholson said...

Interesting.
Strange how some of these sites use either incomplete data, or make calls differently...

Michael Leighton (currently with Carolina) played in goal about half a game for the Predators last year but that was it. HockeyDB doesn't think he exists at all, Hockey-Reference.com says he was on the Preds roster, but never played, while Yahoo Sports and NHL.com correctly report his stats for the one game he played with us at the NHL level.

I do not envy stats guys these weird judgment calls they have to make

 
At 5:45 PM, April 15, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

@paul nicholson
According to HockeyDB Mike Leighton played one game for the Predators (with a GAA of 6.07)
http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/pdisplay.php3?pid=42501

 
At 8:30 PM, April 15, 2008, Blogger Lars said...

As a serious baseball nerd, BBRef has been invaluable to me. If their hockey site is just as good, we're in for a treat.

 
At 8:53 PM, April 15, 2008, Blogger James Mirtle said...

I'm not that big of a baseball guy, but the site always impressed me.

I think they're going to find a big audience for their hockey site.

 
At 9:58 PM, April 15, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone know what goals created per game is?

 
At 10:05 PM, April 15, 2008, Blogger James Mirtle said...

Here's their explanation: Goals created; calculated by adding goals scored to (assists divided by (team assists divided by team goals)), then multiplying by 0.5. Here is an example. In 2006-07, Sidney Crosby had 36 goals and 84 assists. The Penguins as a team had 267 goals and 468 assists. Thus Crosby is credited with 0.5 * (36 + (84 / (468 / 267))) = 42.0 goals created. Note that the sum of player goals created is equal to the sum of player goals scored for all teams.

I'm not that familiar with the stat.

 
At 10:08 PM, April 15, 2008, Blogger James Mirtle said...

Al Ryder has a decent explanation here

 
At 11:03 PM, April 15, 2008, Blogger The Forechecker said...

This site already has one huge advantage over HockeyDB; no pop-up ads...

 
At 11:10 PM, April 15, 2008, Blogger James Mirtle said...

Dirk, you're one to talk! :-)

 
At 12:24 AM, April 16, 2008, Blogger Paul Nicholson said...

Popup ads? what are those?

The internet still has ads? Dirk has ads?

Oh wait...
Firefox + AdBlock = better web. Hee.

I seriously didn't know HockeyDB or Dirk's site had ads or popups :-)

 
At 1:16 AM, April 16, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you Dr. Mirtle...You're a beast

 
At 2:01 AM, April 16, 2008, Blogger islacker said...

This would have been handy for building my Saskatchewan All-Star team in EA NHL05.

 
At 9:43 AM, April 16, 2008, Blogger The Forechecker said...

Pop-ups? There shouldn't be any pop-ups over at my site. If there are, please let me know immediately and I'll look into it.

 
At 2:10 PM, April 20, 2008, Blogger Michael said...

is there a way we can see transactions of a player on their page?

 
At 3:11 PM, April 20, 2008, Blogger James Mirtle said...

Now that's a good idea.

 

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