Thursday, June 12, 2008

All-star, all-rookie teams

These teams are picked by the PHWA at the end of the regular season:

First all-star team
Nabokov
Lidstrom
Phaneuf
Malkin
Iginla
Ovechkin

Second all-star team
Brodeur
Campbell
Chara
Thornton
Kovalev
Zetterberg

All-rookie team
Price
Enstrom
Gilbert
Backstrom
Kane
Toews

The rookie team looks about right, although it's strange Pavel Datsyuk and Sergei Gonchar don't make the all-star teams.

It's also interesting to note that Evgeni Nabokov received top billing here over Marty Brodeur despite the fact the GMs voted the Devils netminder as the Vezina winner.

UPDATE I'll have the full voting totals in tables and broken down for all the major awards by sometime Friday afternoon.

Some interesting results, as always: Ovechkin, Fedorov and Backstrom with Selke votes; Giguere and Osgood with Byng votes; Price for the Vezina; Cullimore, Streit and Redden with Norris bids; Phaneuf, Crosby and Niedermayer claim Hart points.

I'm not kidding.
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9 Comments:

At 12:05 AM, June 13, 2008, Blogger Doogie said...

Phaneuf on the first all-star team? What a crock of shit. He hits and has a good shot, but he's not exactly in the shutdown-D phase of the Scott Stevens model career.

 
At 10:58 AM, June 13, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree. Dion is overrated because he plays for Canadian team. He is good youn D, no question, but not top 2 defenceman in the NHL.

And he is not shutdown-D at all. He hits hard but he is actually quite average defensively. Missed reads, turnovers, contant 2-1s etc.

Btw, how bad was it when they had misspelled Lidstrom's name on that sweater? It had LINDSTROM on it.

 
At 11:27 AM, June 13, 2008, Blogger saskhab said...

Btw, how bad was it when they had misspelled Lidstrom's name on that sweater? It had LINDSTROM on it.

Maybe an over zealous Blue Jackets fan did the lettering?

Totally agree on Phaneuf, but really, we're dealing with a Lidstrom and "everyone else" argument here, so it's no surprise we disagree on who's 2nd best.

Streit even got a 2nd place vote (3 votes total). This is like a utility player getting gold glove votes at center field.

 
At 12:38 PM, June 13, 2008, Blogger Earl Sleek said...

Phaneuf, Crosby and Niedermayer claim Hart points.

Heh, maybe somebody read my glowing Niedermayer post, although I've maintained that nobody should win a Hart after voluntarily missing the first 34 games of the season.

 
At 1:48 PM, June 13, 2008, Blogger JP said...

Some interesting results, as always: Ovechkin, Fedorov and Backstrom with Selke votes...

Ovechkin was fifth among all forwards in plus/minus, ninth in takeaways and sixth in hits.

Backstrom was sixth in takeaways and had fewer giveaways than Datsyuk or Zetteberg.

Are their 29th and 66th place finishes in the voting really that offensive?

 
At 1:52 PM, June 13, 2008, Blogger James Mirtle said...

The "top defensive forward" should always, always be someone who plays at least a little while shorthanded or in a shutdown role.

Ovechkin improved immeasurably defensively this season, but he's not one of the league's stalwarts, and certainly not in the top 30. I've talked about why plus-minus is a bad measure for this award in the past, especially last year when Thomas Vanek received several first place votes.

 
At 1:56 PM, June 13, 2008, Blogger JP said...

I guess the more "offensive" part is not where they finished in the voting as much as the fact that multiple voters had a guy like Ovechkin in their top 5.

An argument can be made (maybe not a strong one) that Ovechkin is one of the top 29 defensive forwards in hockey, but having him in the top five doesn't pass the laugh test.

 
At 1:57 PM, June 13, 2008, Blogger James Mirtle said...

No it doesn't.

 
At 2:11 PM, June 13, 2008, Blogger Hallock said...

I will never understand people continually spelling his name 'Lindstrom' and even still pronouncing it that way unless I am clearly mistaken.

 

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