Friday, August 15, 2008

Bouwmeester is NHL's fastest skater
And other NHL '09 revelations

I'm not so sure we should rely too heavily on video game manufacturers to grade NHL talents, but since they've put the numbers out there, we might as well have a look.

Here are a few leaders lists for various attributes in the game:


First Name Last Name Speed
1 Jay Bouwmeester 95
2 Brian Gionta 94
3 Simon Gagne 94
4 Martin Havlat 94
5 Scott Niedermayer 94
6 David Legwand 93
7 Jarome Iginla 93
8 Matthew Lombardi 93
9 Ales Hemsky 93
10 Pierre-Marc Bouchard 93
11 Marian Gaborik 93
12 Ryan Kesler 93
13 Patrick Marleau 93

I say the NHL has a skate-off at the 2009 all-star game between these 13. My money would likely be on Gaborik.


First Name Last Name Accel.
1 Jay Bouwmeester 94
2 Scott Niedermayer 94
3 Brian Gionta 94
4 Martin Havlat 94
5 Jarome Iginla 93
6 Ryan Kesler 93
7 Henrik Zetterberg 93
8 Marian Gaborik 93
9 Ales Hemsky 93
10 Pavel Datsyuk 93
11 David Legwand 93
12 Pierre-Marc Bouchard 93


First Name Last Name Checking
1 Dustin Brown 99
2 Zdeno Chara 99
3 Georges Laraque 99
4 Derek Boogaard 97
5 Chris Pronger 96
6 Garnet Exelby 96
7 Dion Phaneuf 95
8 Robyn Regehr 95
9 Cam Janssen 94
10 Vitaly Vishnevski 94
11 Brian McGrattan 94
12 Wade Belak 94

Brown, Chara, Phaneuf, etc., are good choices, but some of the heavyweights get marks for hitting that are really related to fighting.


First Name Last Name Toughness
1 Zdeno Chara 99
2 Georges Laraque 99
3 Saku Koivu 99
4 Derek Boogaard 97
5 George Parros 97
6 Scott Parker 97
7 Jordin Tootoo 95
8 Jody Shelley 95
9 Donald Brashear 95
10 Peter Forsberg 95

I honestly have no clue what Saku Koivu's doing on the list, but unless it's a mistake, he can bench Boogaard in the game.


First Name Last Name Slap shot power
1 Zdeno Chara 99
2 Sheldon Souray 99
3 Chris Pronger 96
4 Brian Rolston 95
5 Joe Thornton 95
6 Dustin Byfuglien 95
7 Jarret Stoll 93
8 Dion Phaneuf 93
9 Sami Salo 93
10 Fredrik Modin 93

Byfuglien's going to be more well-known for his big shot as he plays a few more years in the league. Mostly good choices here, although I'm a little surprised at Thornton ranking this high.


First Name Last Name Wrist shot power
1 Zdeno Chara 95
2 Jarome Iginla 92
3 Chris Pronger 91
4 Sheldon Souray 90
5 Joe Thornton 90
6 Dustin Byfuglien 90
7 Ilya Kovalchuk 90
8 Bryan McCabe 90
9 Alexander Ovechkin 90
10 Patrick Marleau 90
11 Evgeni Malkin 90
12 Dany Heatley 90
13 Teemu Selanne 90
14 Mats Sundin 90

Joe Sakic and Markus Naslund strike me as two names that could be up there. I'm sure there are others.


First Name Last Name Deking
1 Pavel Datsyuk 98
2 Sidney Crosby 97
3 Ales Hemsky 96
4 Brian Gionta 96
5 Jason Spezza 95
6 Evgeni Malkin 95
7 Alexander Ovechkin 95
8 Ilya Kovalchuk 94
9 Martin Havlat 93
10 Jussi Jokinen 93
11 Pierre-Marc Bouchard 93
12 Patrik Elias 93

Yes, they can all dangle. No Rick Nash though.


First Name Last Name Defensive awareness
1 Nicklas Lidstrom 96
2 Zdeno Chara 95
3 Chris Pronger 95
4 Sergei Zubov 95
5 Peter Forsberg 95
6 Scott Niedermayer 95
7 Chris Chelios 95
8 Mike Peca 95
9 Adam Foote 94
10 Stephane Yelle 94

I don't know that Chelios belongs here, although "awareness" is tough to define. Lidstrom should probably receive 100.


First Name Last Name DUR
1 Olli Jokinen 99
2 John Madden 98
3 Brad Richards 98
4 Patrick Marleau 97
5 Vaclav Prospal 97
6 Scott Gomez 96
7 Marian Hossa 96
8 Ilya Kovalchuk 96
9 Cory Sarich 96

The amazing, unkillable Olli Jokinen hasn't missed a game in more than five years. He's missed seven games since 1999.

Now here are the lowest of the lows, where players don't want to fall in. I'm only looking at skaters, of which the game apparently includes 721.

Only one skater registers under 70 for speed: Flyers defenceman Mike Rathje, who's a 65.


First Name Last Name Accel.
1 Luke Richardson 65
2 Mike Rathje 66
3 Mike Sgroi 66
4 Brian McGrattan 67
5 Raitis Ivanans 68
6 Reed Low 68
7 Derian Hatcher 68
8 Joe Rullier 69
9 Jassen Cullimore 69
10 Derek Boogaard 69
11 Darren McCarty 69

No speed demons there, that's for sure.


First Name Last Name Checking
1 Kristian Huselius 57
2 Markus Naslund 60
3 Brad Zancanaro 60
4 Martin Kariya 60
5 Mike Ribeiro 60
6 Petr Prucha 60
7 Patrice Brisebois 64
8 Eric Perrin 64
9 Dean McAmmond 64
10 Marek Svatos 64

Huselius is apparently worse at checking than all of the career minor leaguers in the game, including Mr. Zancanaro, who I've never heard of. He was apparently one of the top defensive forwards in college hockey when he played for Boston U, however.


First Name Last Name Toughness
1 Stu Barnes 58
2 Kristian Huselius 59
3 Markus Naslund 60
4 Brad Zancanaro 60
5 Martin Kariya 60
6 Dean McAmmond 63
7 Eric Perrin 64
8 Marek Svatos 64

They're no Saku Koivu!

Under slap shot power, only Daniel Tjarnqvist registers under 70. I'm not sure why.


First Name Last Name Defensive awareness
1 Daniel Tjarnqvist 64
2 Brad Zancanaro 65
3 Mike Sgroi 65
4 Chris Ferraro 65
5 Olivier Latendresse 65
6 Josh Prudden 65
7 Reagan Rome 65
8 Curtiss Patrick 65
9 Chris Harrington 65
10 Reed Low 65

The game doesn't like the Avs' newest addition.

Chris Ferraro hasn't played an NHL game since 2001-02. Some other solid ECHL and CHL fellows in here for some reason.


First Name Last Name Durability
1 Mike Rathje 50
2 Josef Marha 55
3 Bryan Berard 55
4 Carlo Colaiacovo 55
5 Sami Salo 55
6 Rhett Warrener 58

Rathje can't buy a break. Meanwhile, Marha's been an iron man for Davos the past seven seasons.

Barry Melrose Rocks has the blogger ratings, and pegs yours truly as the most offensive out there. Need to work on the agility though.

Hockey Blogging '09 sounds like potentially the worst video game release of all-time.
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21 Comments:

At 11:00 PM, August 15, 2008, Blogger Down Goes Brown said...

Bryan McCabe for wrist shot power? He hasn't tried a wrist shot since 2003.

Sakic not being on the wrist shot list is a pretty major oversight. And you're right about the heavyweights in the checking category -- McGratton and Belak never hit anyone because they couldn't get into position in time.

They got Colaiacovo right, though.

 
At 11:28 PM, August 15, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Getting a little desperate for some hard hockey numbers?

I don't think Hensky was in the top 3 among Oilers for speed the last time they checked.

 
At 11:40 PM, August 15, 2008, Blogger J. Michael Neal said...

I can attest that, if Chris Harrington showed up in the NHL, he would be among the least defensively aware players in the league. He was bad as a Gopher.

 
At 11:51 PM, August 15, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I bet Koivu got the toughness vote because he overcame cancer.

 
At 12:02 AM, August 16, 2008, OpenID sweatrag said...

Phil Kessel would have shown up in the list for lowest checking stat, but they couldn't rate him due to sample size.

 
At 2:12 AM, August 16, 2008, Anonymous feelingkettle said...

As a Flyers fan, I got a laugh out of Forsberg being in the top couple of players for Toughness. He's a physical player, but his body ain't as tough as he wants to play these days.

And Rathje hasn't played in almost two years now, and will be on the LTIR for all this season, due to his lingering back problems. He was horrible when he played, anyway. Looks like he's represented well in the game, although I'm surprised he's even in it, to be honest.

 
At 2:26 AM, August 16, 2008, Blogger James Mirtle said...

Getting a little desperate for some hard hockey numbers?

Truthfully, I'm actually a little desperate for some decent anonymous commenters.

Would you rather a Sundin update?

 
At 2:39 AM, August 16, 2008, Blogger saskhab said...

Komisarek not in the top 10 for checking? Blasphemy!

I guess I'll continue to pimp out the Montreal players that could be considered on this list...

Wrist Shot power: Alexei Kovalev and Andrei Kostitsyn better have strong ratings, Kovalev probably deserves to be in the top 10, and also up there for deking. Actually, anyone who has seen what he pulls off in his training video would think he deserves a 115+ rating, but he only shows flashes of that wizardry in game action.

The Koivu rating is obviously a different kind of toughness. It'd be funny if he dropped the gloves in this game because of his toughness rating, though. He's never been in a fight in his NHL career.

Montreal's a really fast team, but I don't know if there's a real standout that could be a top 10-15 guy. Plekanec is incredibly efficient, but doesn't have a big stride.

BTW, James, that was a hell of a performance by your old compatriot Dylan Armstrong in the shotput. Here's to a podium showing in 2012 for him.

 
At 6:59 AM, August 16, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

BTW, James, that was a hell of a performance by your old compatriot Dylan Armstrong in the shotput. Here's to a podium showing in 2012 for him.

I saw that. When he was interviewed afterwards and they talked about how he switched from hammer throwing a few years ago, I thought "just three years experience and a career-best and Canadian record in his event." Good future for him.

 
At 7:48 AM, August 16, 2008, Blogger savagist said...

i cant believe Curtis Glencross isnt on the top speed list. and Horcoff winning the fastest skater at the All-Star game didnt get him any credit? Datsyuk not being in the top defensive awareness players after getting like 140 takeaways (maybe some were cheats from home statisticians), plus the Selke?

simple solution: edit player > save roster

seems like they wasted more time making the World of Warcraft portion of the game than actually caring how "real" their stat categories are. oh well. give it a year and it will be worth 10$ at your local used store.

 
At 9:00 AM, August 16, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

No Joker or Batman anywhere? These rankings suck.

 
At 12:32 PM, August 16, 2008, Blogger Heather B. said...

No Afinogenov for speed and acceleration is crazy. He may not be able to finish all the time but dude can skate and he can get to top speed quickly.

 
At 2:28 PM, August 16, 2008, OpenID jimmypop6996 said...

I'm more surprised Derek Roy doesn't make the top 13 of speed ratings than Afinogenov.

 
At 3:02 PM, August 16, 2008, Blogger Bill Needle said...

Hey, where are the ratings for worst head-bleeders?

 
At 10:15 PM, August 16, 2008, Blogger wade little said...

I'm pretty disappointed to see both Brian Campbell and Duncan Keith aren't up there for their speed.

 
At 2:36 AM, August 17, 2008, Blogger Doogie2K said...

Hockey Blogging '09 sounds like potentially the worst video game release of all-time.

It can't be worse than Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing. I think it's physically impossible.

The Koivu rating is obviously a different kind of toughness. It'd be funny if he dropped the gloves in this game because of his toughness rating, though. He's never been in a fight in his NHL career.

Wow, you're right. He doesn't even show up on HockeyFights.com. He's had a few almosts in tough games, but I've never seen him get more than four for roughing.

seems like they wasted more time making the World of Warcraft portion of the game than actually caring how "real" their stat categories are.

No kidding. Gagner at 75 Offensive Awareness? I call bullshit on a pogo stick.

 
At 9:33 PM, August 17, 2008, Blogger JoBu said...

How can Lilja not top (bottom?) the list for both skating speed and defensive awareness? He's God awful at both.

 
At 9:44 AM, August 18, 2008, Blogger Ryan said...

Where in the good world is Mike Green in skating? Every game I saw last year he was clearly one of the fastest, if not the fastest, guy on the ice

 
At 11:02 AM, August 18, 2008, Blogger Andy Monet said...

"The amazing, unkillable Olli Jokinen hasn't missed a game in more than five years. He's missed seven games since 1999."

that's incredible! didn't know. what a horse. thanks for letting me know james. way to go!

 
At 11:40 AM, August 23, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow I had no idea Bowmeister is that fast,he doesn't seem to showcase it that much, great player-wish he was a Leaf--hahaha/ he'd be a difference maker/ Niklas Kronwall- wasen't he a human wrecking ball in the playoffs for Detroit? I read that his checking is rated at 74-that's just dumb-put him in the high 80's category at least.

 
At 8:47 AM, September 02, 2008, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Alex Semin not in top 10 wristshots?

 

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