Bouwmeester is NHL's fastest skater
And other NHL '09 revelations
I'm not so sure we should rely too heavily on video game manufacturers to grade NHL talents, but since they've put the numbers out there, we might as well have a look.
Here are a few leaders lists for various attributes in the game:
| First Name | Last Name | Speed | |
| 1 | Jay | Bouwmeester | 95 |
| 2 | Brian | Gionta | 94 |
| 3 | Simon | Gagne | 94 |
| 4 | Martin | Havlat | 94 |
| 5 | Scott | Niedermayer | 94 |
| 6 | David | Legwand | 93 |
| 7 | Jarome | Iginla | 93 |
| 8 | Matthew | Lombardi | 93 |
| 9 | Ales | Hemsky | 93 |
| 10 | Pierre-Marc | Bouchard | 93 |
| 11 | Marian | Gaborik | 93 |
| 12 | Ryan | Kesler | 93 |
| 13 | Patrick | Marleau | 93 |
I say the NHL has a skate-off at the 2009 all-star game between these 13. My money would likely be on Gaborik.
| First Name | Last Name | Accel. | |
| 1 | Jay | Bouwmeester | 94 |
| 2 | Scott | Niedermayer | 94 |
| 3 | Brian | Gionta | 94 |
| 4 | Martin | Havlat | 94 |
| 5 | Jarome | Iginla | 93 |
| 6 | Ryan | Kesler | 93 |
| 7 | Henrik | Zetterberg | 93 |
| 8 | Marian | Gaborik | 93 |
| 9 | Ales | Hemsky | 93 |
| 10 | Pavel | Datsyuk | 93 |
| 11 | David | Legwand | 93 |
| 12 | Pierre-Marc | Bouchard | 93 |
| First Name | Last Name | Checking | |
| 1 | Dustin | Brown | 99 |
| 2 | Zdeno | Chara | 99 |
| 3 | Georges | Laraque | 99 |
| 4 | Derek | Boogaard | 97 |
| 5 | Chris | Pronger | 96 |
| 6 | Garnet | Exelby | 96 |
| 7 | Dion | Phaneuf | 95 |
| 8 | Robyn | Regehr | 95 |
| 9 | Cam | Janssen | 94 |
| 10 | Vitaly | Vishnevski | 94 |
| 11 | Brian | McGrattan | 94 |
| 12 | Wade | Belak | 94 |
Brown, Chara, Phaneuf, etc., are good choices, but some of the heavyweights get marks for hitting that are really related to fighting.
| First Name | Last Name | Toughness | |
| 1 | Zdeno | Chara | 99 |
| 2 | Georges | Laraque | 99 |
| 3 | Saku | Koivu | 99 |
| 4 | Derek | Boogaard | 97 |
| 5 | George | Parros | 97 |
| 6 | Scott | Parker | 97 |
| 7 | Jordin | Tootoo | 95 |
| 8 | Jody | Shelley | 95 |
| 9 | Donald | Brashear | 95 |
| 10 | Peter | Forsberg | 95 |
I honestly have no clue what Saku Koivu's doing on the list, but unless it's a mistake, he can bench Boogaard in the game.
| First Name | Last Name | Slap shot power | |
| 1 | Zdeno | Chara | 99 |
| 2 | Sheldon | Souray | 99 |
| 3 | Chris | Pronger | 96 |
| 4 | Brian | Rolston | 95 |
| 5 | Joe | Thornton | 95 |
| 6 | Dustin | Byfuglien | 95 |
| 7 | Jarret | Stoll | 93 |
| 8 | Dion | Phaneuf | 93 |
| 9 | Sami | Salo | 93 |
| 10 | Fredrik | Modin | 93 |
Byfuglien's going to be more well-known for his big shot as he plays a few more years in the league. Mostly good choices here, although I'm a little surprised at Thornton ranking this high.
| First Name | Last Name | Wrist shot power | |
| 1 | Zdeno | Chara | 95 |
| 2 | Jarome | Iginla | 92 |
| 3 | Chris | Pronger | 91 |
| 4 | Sheldon | Souray | 90 |
| 5 | Joe | Thornton | 90 |
| 6 | Dustin | Byfuglien | 90 |
| 7 | Ilya | Kovalchuk | 90 |
| 8 | Bryan | McCabe | 90 |
| 9 | Alexander | Ovechkin | 90 |
| 10 | Patrick | Marleau | 90 |
| 11 | Evgeni | Malkin | 90 |
| 12 | Dany | Heatley | 90 |
| 13 | Teemu | Selanne | 90 |
| 14 | Mats | Sundin | 90 |
Joe Sakic and Markus Naslund strike me as two names that could be up there. I'm sure there are others.
| First Name | Last Name | Deking | |
| 1 | Pavel | Datsyuk | 98 |
| 2 | Sidney | Crosby | 97 |
| 3 | Ales | Hemsky | 96 |
| 4 | Brian | Gionta | 96 |
| 5 | Jason | Spezza | 95 |
| 6 | Evgeni | Malkin | 95 |
| 7 | Alexander | Ovechkin | 95 |
| 8 | Ilya | Kovalchuk | 94 |
| 9 | Martin | Havlat | 93 |
| 10 | Jussi | Jokinen | 93 |
| 11 | Pierre-Marc | Bouchard | 93 |
| 12 | Patrik | Elias | 93 |
Yes, they can all dangle. No Rick Nash though.
| First Name | Last Name | Defensive awareness | |
| 1 | Nicklas | Lidstrom | 96 |
| 2 | Zdeno | Chara | 95 |
| 3 | Chris | Pronger | 95 |
| 4 | Sergei | Zubov | 95 |
| 5 | Peter | Forsberg | 95 |
| 6 | Scott | Niedermayer | 95 |
| 7 | Chris | Chelios | 95 |
| 8 | Mike | Peca | 95 |
| 9 | Adam | Foote | 94 |
| 10 | Stephane | Yelle | 94 |
I don't know that Chelios belongs here, although "awareness" is tough to define. Lidstrom should probably receive 100.
| First Name | Last Name | DUR | |
| 1 | Olli | Jokinen | 99 |
| 2 | John | Madden | 98 |
| 3 | Brad | Richards | 98 |
| 4 | Patrick | Marleau | 97 |
| 5 | Vaclav | Prospal | 97 |
| 6 | Scott | Gomez | 96 |
| 7 | Marian | Hossa | 96 |
| 8 | Ilya | Kovalchuk | 96 |
| 9 | Cory | Sarich | 96 |
The amazing, unkillable Olli Jokinen hasn't missed a game in more than five years. He's missed seven games since 1999.
Now here are the lowest of the lows, where players don't want to fall in. I'm only looking at skaters, of which the game apparently includes 721.
Only one skater registers under 70 for speed: Flyers defenceman Mike Rathje, who's a 65.
| First Name | Last Name | Accel. | |
| 1 | Luke | Richardson | 65 |
| 2 | Mike | Rathje | 66 |
| 3 | Mike | Sgroi | 66 |
| 4 | Brian | McGrattan | 67 |
| 5 | Raitis | Ivanans | 68 |
| 6 | Reed | Low | 68 |
| 7 | Derian | Hatcher | 68 |
| 8 | Joe | Rullier | 69 |
| 9 | Jassen | Cullimore | 69 |
| 10 | Derek | Boogaard | 69 |
| 11 | Darren | McCarty | 69 |
No speed demons there, that's for sure.
| First Name | Last Name | Checking | |
| 1 | Kristian | Huselius | 57 |
| 2 | Markus | Naslund | 60 |
| 3 | Brad | Zancanaro | 60 |
| 4 | Martin | Kariya | 60 |
| 5 | Mike | Ribeiro | 60 |
| 6 | Petr | Prucha | 60 |
| 7 | Patrice | Brisebois | 64 |
| 8 | Eric | Perrin | 64 |
| 9 | Dean | McAmmond | 64 |
| 10 | Marek | Svatos | 64 |
Huselius is apparently worse at checking than all of the career minor leaguers in the game, including Mr. Zancanaro, who I've never heard of. He was apparently one of the top defensive forwards in college hockey when he played for Boston U, however.
| First Name | Last Name | Toughness | |
| 1 | Stu | Barnes | 58 |
| 2 | Kristian | Huselius | 59 |
| 3 | Markus | Naslund | 60 |
| 4 | Brad | Zancanaro | 60 |
| 5 | Martin | Kariya | 60 |
| 6 | Dean | McAmmond | 63 |
| 7 | Eric | Perrin | 64 |
| 8 | Marek | Svatos | 64 |
They're no Saku Koivu!
Under slap shot power, only Daniel Tjarnqvist registers under 70. I'm not sure why.
| First Name | Last Name | Defensive awareness | |
| 1 | Daniel | Tjarnqvist | 64 |
| 2 | Brad | Zancanaro | 65 |
| 3 | Mike | Sgroi | 65 |
| 4 | Chris | Ferraro | 65 |
| 5 | Olivier | Latendresse | 65 |
| 6 | Josh | Prudden | 65 |
| 7 | Reagan | Rome | 65 |
| 8 | Curtiss | Patrick | 65 |
| 9 | Chris | Harrington | 65 |
| 10 | Reed | Low | 65 |
The game doesn't like the Avs' newest addition.
Chris Ferraro hasn't played an NHL game since 2001-02. Some other solid ECHL and CHL fellows in here for some reason.
| First Name | Last Name | Durability | |
| 1 | Mike | Rathje | 50 |
| 2 | Josef | Marha | 55 |
| 3 | Bryan | Berard | 55 |
| 4 | Carlo | Colaiacovo | 55 |
| 5 | Sami | Salo | 55 |
| 6 | Rhett | Warrener | 58 |
Rathje can't buy a break. Meanwhile, Marha's been an iron man for Davos the past seven seasons.
Barry Melrose Rocks has the blogger ratings, and pegs yours truly as the most offensive out there. Need to work on the agility though.
Hockey Blogging '09 sounds like potentially the worst video game release of all-time.
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21 Comments:
Bryan McCabe for wrist shot power? He hasn't tried a wrist shot since 2003.
Sakic not being on the wrist shot list is a pretty major oversight. And you're right about the heavyweights in the checking category -- McGratton and Belak never hit anyone because they couldn't get into position in time.
They got Colaiacovo right, though.
Getting a little desperate for some hard hockey numbers?
I don't think Hensky was in the top 3 among Oilers for speed the last time they checked.
I can attest that, if Chris Harrington showed up in the NHL, he would be among the least defensively aware players in the league. He was bad as a Gopher.
I bet Koivu got the toughness vote because he overcame cancer.
Phil Kessel would have shown up in the list for lowest checking stat, but they couldn't rate him due to sample size.
As a Flyers fan, I got a laugh out of Forsberg being in the top couple of players for Toughness. He's a physical player, but his body ain't as tough as he wants to play these days.
And Rathje hasn't played in almost two years now, and will be on the LTIR for all this season, due to his lingering back problems. He was horrible when he played, anyway. Looks like he's represented well in the game, although I'm surprised he's even in it, to be honest.
Getting a little desperate for some hard hockey numbers?
Truthfully, I'm actually a little desperate for some decent anonymous commenters.
Would you rather a Sundin update?
Komisarek not in the top 10 for checking? Blasphemy!
I guess I'll continue to pimp out the Montreal players that could be considered on this list...
Wrist Shot power: Alexei Kovalev and Andrei Kostitsyn better have strong ratings, Kovalev probably deserves to be in the top 10, and also up there for deking. Actually, anyone who has seen what he pulls off in his training video would think he deserves a 115+ rating, but he only shows flashes of that wizardry in game action.
The Koivu rating is obviously a different kind of toughness. It'd be funny if he dropped the gloves in this game because of his toughness rating, though. He's never been in a fight in his NHL career.
Montreal's a really fast team, but I don't know if there's a real standout that could be a top 10-15 guy. Plekanec is incredibly efficient, but doesn't have a big stride.
BTW, James, that was a hell of a performance by your old compatriot Dylan Armstrong in the shotput. Here's to a podium showing in 2012 for him.
BTW, James, that was a hell of a performance by your old compatriot Dylan Armstrong in the shotput. Here's to a podium showing in 2012 for him.
I saw that. When he was interviewed afterwards and they talked about how he switched from hammer throwing a few years ago, I thought "just three years experience and a career-best and Canadian record in his event." Good future for him.
i cant believe Curtis Glencross isnt on the top speed list. and Horcoff winning the fastest skater at the All-Star game didnt get him any credit? Datsyuk not being in the top defensive awareness players after getting like 140 takeaways (maybe some were cheats from home statisticians), plus the Selke?
simple solution: edit player > save roster
seems like they wasted more time making the World of Warcraft portion of the game than actually caring how "real" their stat categories are. oh well. give it a year and it will be worth 10$ at your local used store.
No Joker or Batman anywhere? These rankings suck.
No Afinogenov for speed and acceleration is crazy. He may not be able to finish all the time but dude can skate and he can get to top speed quickly.
I'm more surprised Derek Roy doesn't make the top 13 of speed ratings than Afinogenov.
Hey, where are the ratings for worst head-bleeders?
I'm pretty disappointed to see both Brian Campbell and Duncan Keith aren't up there for their speed.
Hockey Blogging '09 sounds like potentially the worst video game release of all-time.
It can't be worse than Big Rigs: Over the Road Racing. I think it's physically impossible.
The Koivu rating is obviously a different kind of toughness. It'd be funny if he dropped the gloves in this game because of his toughness rating, though. He's never been in a fight in his NHL career.
Wow, you're right. He doesn't even show up on HockeyFights.com. He's had a few almosts in tough games, but I've never seen him get more than four for roughing.
seems like they wasted more time making the World of Warcraft portion of the game than actually caring how "real" their stat categories are.
No kidding. Gagner at 75 Offensive Awareness? I call bullshit on a pogo stick.
How can Lilja not top (bottom?) the list for both skating speed and defensive awareness? He's God awful at both.
Where in the good world is Mike Green in skating? Every game I saw last year he was clearly one of the fastest, if not the fastest, guy on the ice
"The amazing, unkillable Olli Jokinen hasn't missed a game in more than five years. He's missed seven games since 1999."
that's incredible! didn't know. what a horse. thanks for letting me know james. way to go!
Wow I had no idea Bowmeister is that fast,he doesn't seem to showcase it that much, great player-wish he was a Leaf--hahaha/ he'd be a difference maker/ Niklas Kronwall- wasen't he a human wrecking ball in the playoffs for Detroit? I read that his checking is rated at 74-that's just dumb-put him in the high 80's category at least.
Alex Semin not in top 10 wristshots?
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