Saturday, June 24, 2006

Pronger to leave Edmonton

It may have started as a rumour — or something even less than that — but two days later, is appears all but done. Chris Pronger is almost certainly going to leave the Edmonton Oilers.

The reasons — or reason — have also come out, with Pronger having requested a trade earlier in the season due to his wife's desire to leave northern Alberta.

You really have to wonder about the behind-the-scenes issues here, and just how miserable Lauren Pronger must have been living in Edmonton the past nine months. A St. Louis girl from a wealthy background (her father founded a successful investment banking firm), Pronger's wife was decidedly not used to the oft-transient lifestyle of modern professional athletes, given that he was able to play nine full seasons for her hometown Blues.

I will say one thing that I haven't read anywhere else, and that's this: It shows class that Pronger didn't request an immediate trade when his family situation dictated such. Instead, he followed through on his committment for at least one full season, not upsetting the team's balance during the year. At least this way, given his phenomenal play during the postseason, his value is sky-high and Oilers GM Kevin Lowe has time to make a deal.

If you have to move a player like Pronger, those are the ideal circumstances.

Still, I'm not sure any professional athlete has had as much of an impact on a city in only one year as Pronger did in Edmonton this season. He was one of the top five defencemen during the regular season (a Norris Trophy candidate), and one of the best players in the playoffs (a Conn Smythe favourite). Pronger's willingness to come to Edmonton also brought a new hope to small-town Canadian hockey fans who had long grown used to being spurned by the game's biggest stars.

If the Oilers stumble and fall next season, a heckuva lot of embittered fans will blame the girl from Missouri.


At 9:51 a.m., June 24, 2006, Blogger andy grabia said...

That's the second wife from Missouri who destroyed this town.

At 10:09 a.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pronger himself seems to have had no qualms with playing in Edmonton, but the love of his wife trumps loyalty to a team anytime.Pronger has done what any husband worth his salt would do, put his wife and family first. He at least was enough of a man to give the Oilers one season and didn't allow any of this to be a distraction throughout the playoffs, helping them come to within one game of winning the Stanley Cup. Oilers fans need to remember that before they start heaping abuse on him. This isn't about money or greed, it's about keeping his family happy.

At 12:16 p.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"From the 'when Hell freezes over' dept.

Don't be surprised if the Oilers trade Chris Pronger to free up some money. He has a whopping salary and the return could be significant.

— Al Strachan"

Atta boy Mirtle

At 1:10 p.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

that is one selfish woman. to decide for herself where her husband plays hockey. chris should wear the pants not the panties.

At 1:14 p.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...


Why did he sign a 5 yr deal in the first place? Surely Lauren wan't keeping quite then.....

At 1:16 p.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pronger himself seems to have had no qualms with playing in Edmonton, but the love of his wife trumps loyalty to a team anytime.

Well, that and his word on a signed contract.

At 2:08 p.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

stupid lady

At 2:28 p.m., June 24, 2006, Blogger James Mirtle said...

Speaking of the Strachan story — and it really is wonderful to see the anonymous nitpickers come out of the woodwork — you really have to wonder what info he really had here. If Strachan had reported Pronger requested a trade, that would have at least been remotely plausible. Saying the Oilers would deal him to get a good return on his salary is simply ridiculous.

At 2:28 p.m., June 24, 2006, Blogger pinder said...

just once i'd like to see a team say "no, you're under contract. see you at training camp". just once.

At 2:51 p.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes, James, it is nice to see brave souls hiding behind the "anonymous" label to nitpick, especially to heap abuse on Pronger's wife. Probably never been in a happy relationship before.

Why did Pronger's wife not complain when he signed his big contract? Probably because she'd never had to follow her husband before (she's a St. Louis native). She tried it, didn't like it, and wanted to leave. He loves his wife and wants to make her happy. That doesn't make him less of a man, folks.

As for his contract, he could've made public waves during the season or in the playoffs regardless of the contract but he didn't, which was a mature decision. He didn't act like a petulant spoiled brat.

He's not a traitor, a wimp, or a pussy. He's merely trying to do what's right for his family. Why stay in a city if you're not happy there? That's not a knock against Edmonton, it's just unfortunate, is all.

Hopefully Lowe can either trade him for a good player or sign one who wants to play in Edmonton.

At 2:54 p.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pinder: And what would that accomplish? Having an unhappy player return next season possibly upsetting team chemistry or his performance, and potentially placing that player's marriage at risk to boot?

No, better to shop Pronger for a good return and/or use the savings to bring in a star who wants to play in Edmonton.

At 3:04 p.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...


At 3:10 p.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

What, your response, "Anonymous"? Why, yes, it is.

At 4:00 p.m., June 24, 2006, Blogger allan said...

Sadly, I haven't heard anything concrete, only summaries of the involved parties' comments, but the lack of fanfare around this so far makes me think that Pronger and his agent had no intention of making this a public demand.

It seems to me that Strachan's article, which may have only been coincidentally correct, forced the Pronger camp's hand in making it public.

Otherwise, it just doesn't make sense that he'd keep it so quiet throughout the season, and then make a scene within days of the conclusion of their great run. That's a rather startling shift in attitude.

At 4:00 p.m., June 24, 2006, Blogger allan said...

I wish I could post anonymously. But registering a handle was so easy, I just couldn't stop myself.

At 5:24 p.m., June 24, 2006, Blogger Loxy said...

There's a difference between taking the easy way out or telling your wife that she needs to put up with this for a while.

I have no sympathy for the "family" card in this situation. If she didn't think Chris would ever be traded, she was very ignorant of the business of hockey.

Poor effort by both the Prongers.

At 5:40 p.m., June 24, 2006, Blogger Swabbubba said...

Pronger's wife did not mind the 30M contract. Pronger is only to be going one way to the rafters on Rexall. It is business, he is from Dryden ON, That town stinks bad from the mill. Jeebus I guess his wife does not go there either.
Nice job Pronger...jeebus Comrie may be able to show his face in town again....
And Lyle when u sign a 5 year deal you are saying you are committed for 5, not 1. So after 1 year this is not the time to be dealing , and using the press to get it out there to drive the value. Nice job.

At 5:56 p.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I get a good chuckle out of the comments from folks suggesting Pronger should've put his wife in his place. From my experience, anyone who publicly proclaims a man needs to put his wife in her place is one who wouldn't dare try that with his own wife.

As for Pronger's committment, obviously when he signed it he thought everything would be fine. The situation has since changed and that's life. Plenty of folks commit to something initially only to discover later on it's not for them for whatever reason.

The only thing I'd concur on is if Pronger and his agent were the ones leaking this to Al Strachan just after the playoffs. If true that wasn't a classy move at all.

At 6:11 p.m., June 24, 2006, Blogger Loxy said...

Whether it's putting her in her place, or having a lengthy discussion that says, "Honey, you are nothing more than the Paris Hilton of Missouri, how about we work with my career - since I have one."

Either way, I'll let LR know when I get myself a wife and maybe my thoughts will change.

Then again, my sexual orientation would also have to change.

At 6:41 p.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Lauren Pronger is to blame for Chris wanting to leave Edmonton because she wants to be closer to her family in the east, it doesn't make much sense in my mind.

Chris ISN'T going back to St. Louis. So you're somewhere in the east - you still need to hop on a plane to see your family.

Plane's aren't exactly tardy tranportation. I see very little difference in hopping on a plane for five hours in first class compared to hopping on a plane for an hour in first class to go home. It's selfish any way you look at it.

And if it's just the city you didn't like, well that's selfish as well.

But who knows. This may be a lot deeper. Surely there is more to Chris' desire to be traded than we know. And, let's face it, we don't know much as it is.

At 6:57 p.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Loxy: your orientation won't matter. Straight, gay, it's the same thing. Good luck with that attitude toward your significant other, because if they've got any self-respect at all, they'll tell you where to stuff it.

Enjoy the doghouse.

At 7:26 p.m., June 24, 2006, Blogger Avi Schaumberg said...

He's merely trying to do what's right for his family.--L.R.

It would be nice if that was true, but we don't know that yet. And given the way the story broke, I don't think we owe the Prongers the benefit of the doubt.

It should not be unreasonable to say "a deal's a deal." Pronger might respond by underperforming or poisoning the atmosphere, or he might respond by saying "I'm here for four more years, so we better find a way to work this out." Why not find out?

If it's really untenable, and he wants to put family before his contractual commitments, then there's an honest way out. It's called retirement. It comes at a cost, as all difficult decisions do.

At 7:41 p.m., June 24, 2006, Blogger Unknown said...

It would be nice if that was true, but we don't know that yet. And given the way the story broke, I don't think we owe the Prongers the benefit of the doubt.

I find it interesting that someone who is adamant about not giving the Prongers the benefit of the doubt because we don't know the whole story is willing to trash them without knowing the whole story.

James didn't post a link to his sources on they're motive, so this post is all I have to go on. Notice, however, that it never says that Chris Pronger has demanded a trade; all it says is that he has requested one. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that.

As written, it gives the Oilers an opportunity to shop him around and see what they can get. We have no idea how the Pronfers would react if Kevin Lowe comes back and says, "I couldn't find a deal that really makes sense to me. Are you sure you need to be traded?"

For all we know, the Prongers would bite the bullet and stick around without complaining. I'm sure that no one criticizing Pronger would ever ask their boss if they could transfer to a different city with the same firm. (I phrase it that way, because the NHL has a monopoly on top level hockey in North America, so they have to be comparable to a single business with facilities in thirty different cities.)

I'm a Red Wings fan, so I've never had a particularly good word to say about Pronger. Still, he won't get any argument from me on this, at least not with the information we have so far.

At 8:31 p.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Okay, I understand the "Janet Jones Gretzky" syndrome blonde hockey cling on wife wanting to leave Edmonton; so whatever. But this journalist from T.O. needs a smack: small town Canada - since when is a city of close to one million considered a small town? Even in the states we're considered a medium sized market. Northern Alberta? Last time I checked we were still in Central Alberta. Sounds like the usual snotty attitude from the great center of the universe, Toronto.

We'll survive. It's hockey afterall, one tends to get knocked around a bit.

At 9:08 p.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

ok im not anonoymous. my name is Jo Anne. I sure as hell don't appreciate what has gone on for my hometown team. The fact that Pronger so easily inked his contract for 5 years, but now hes trying to get out; IN MY OPINION I'm sure its all about Lauren, the rich b(tch.
She was apart of Bride magazine in St.Louis, and had all her rich friends and societies..... Why not try to make some friends in the city of champs? Or maybe her attitude was so snotty and nobody felt like dealing with nonsense like her. I'm so upset by the fact that she has done this, and yes i'm putting all the blame on her. I have a family and a husband aswell, and wherever his work takes him we go. I'm not currently happy where I'm living myself, however we are making the best of the situation and knowing I won't be here forever.
Why can't Lauren take one for the team, where else will she be happy? we all know St.Louis won't be taken ol prongsie back. Oh but thats right she only plays for the Lauren team. So where the heck does the Lauren team wanna go? Does she wanna go back to the USA? Thanks for the great year Pronger, and no tks to your wife for influencing you to leave...

At 11:03 p.m., June 24, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

She is hardly the first American hockey wife to hate living in Canada. Much less famously, Gerald Diduck's wife hated Vancouver, and eventually insisted on a trade. On the baseball front, the Montreal Expos used to have a terrible time with player's wifes who were dealing with culture shock in Montreal.

It's often tough on the wives, as they are alone in a strange city and dealing with the kids while their husbands hang out with the boys and travel. Combine that with the fact that Pronger's wife grew up with a silver spoon in her mouth, and it's not very surprising she didn't take to Edmonton. All she has ever had to do to get her own way in life is snap her fingers, so this should be no different, right?

At 2:57 a.m., June 25, 2006, Blogger Achtungbaby said...

If Prongers wife was worth her salt she'd tell her man to man up and live with the commitment he made. By the way, family doesn't always trump a job. My wife would like it if I spent more time at home but understands ITS MY JOB!!!!

The fact of the matter is that Pronger signed a 5 year contract. I hate it when people make arguements that are beside the point. It's a part of the reason, not the whole.

Just like when 'some' writers thought that the NHLPA would never accept a salary cap because of their morales rather then their pocketbooks.

At 10:38 a.m., June 25, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Spoken like a man who's never been married, Mr. Gunner. Again, remarks like yours make me chuckle.

At 11:37 a.m., June 25, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

In response to pinder, Ottawa did exactly that a few seasons back. Yashin was looking for a reworking of his contract (for the 2nd time in 3 years) and they told him "tough, you're under contract". Yashin tried to hold out but the Senators were even more stubborn, which lead to him coming back to play (complete with nightly chastising from the hometown crowd). More teams need to do this.

I'd like to see Pronger return to Edmonton, but if that doesn't happen I'd like to see them get equal value from another team. Luongo's already been traded, but in the new NHL you never know what'll happen.

It's just too bad that the days of players spending their entire career wearing one uniform are long gone. The Yzerman's of the world are even more rare a breed.

At 12:19 p.m., June 25, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

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At 12:57 p.m., June 25, 2006, Blogger Jen said...

As a man who was married a little over a year ago... I can appreciate that you need to care for your wife and family ahead of your job.

It's not even been a week since we lost game 7 of the Stanley Cup final. No matter how upstanding a guy Chris Pronger is... the timing is awful. If the Joe Thornton trade could have been done as quietly as it was- couldn't this have been done the same way?

The whole situation makes me sick. But then again, I'm an Oilers fan with a 9 foot poster of Chris Pronger in my den. It looks like I made a good decision not to get my new Oilers jersey crested with #44- it'd be a shame to have that one hanging next to my Doug Weight one.

Welcome back to the early '90s.

At 2:42 p.m., June 25, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As an Edmontonian who was born and raised in this city I am, like most Edmontonians, a big Oilers fan. I woke up yesterday morning to find out that one of the stars of the Oilers and quite possibly one of the best defensemen in the NHL was wanting out of Edmonton. I’ve been married for 2 years now and completely understand the importance of keeping my wife happy. The disappointment I have comes from the kick in the groin that the Prongers landed on my city. One would think that Edmonton was not the only city bidding on Chris this time last year and that maybe the Prongers should have done a little more research on where they were going to end up before signing a 5 year contract. So to all of you people putting down Chris and his family, just remember that this is the first anyone has really heard of the situation. They did not make a huge stink about it all season and if the problems at home really did affect his on ice performance, his stats surely did not reflect it. I have turned down jobs in the past that may not be the most desirable for my home life and I have lived with my decision that my family comes first. My only wish is that the Prongers had given their move here a little more thought before they took the trade. As far as I’m concerned, we should just get what we can for Chris in a trade and move on. It’s disappointing how others will view the living situation in a city I am proud to be a part of.

At 3:29 p.m., June 25, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

IMHO, CarOil, it really has nothing to do with Mrs. P. The fact of the matter is, CP signed the contract and knew what exactly he was getting himself into. If he had a prima donna wife, he should have made sure his wife had plenty of time to get to know Edmonton and actually liked it before he signed a long-term contract that sends message of commitment, trust, and loyalty. On top of that, how the news was broke out to the general public was atrocious. I know, we are only fans, who cares?? I only spent a month's salary to go see a couple of "hockey games" and I know I am so not alone there. Why should anyone give a damn how the loyal Oilers fans would feel about the franchise #1 star defenseman is asking his agent to let the world know he wants to leave the team who just went to the SCF Game 7 with him 4 days ago?!

The pucks from Game 7 are not even cold yet!

He signed the contract he is the one to be blamed. Trashing his wife would only give him excuse for his behavior.

CP was big part of the Oilers success in the post season; so was Pisani, Smyth, Roli, Jussi, the coaching staff, ... etc. we can just as easily say the Edmonton Oilers took CP to where he had never gone before, the Stanley Cup Finals. It was the highlight of his career, and how many talented players who sign a long-term contract with a new team enjoy this kind of success in their freshman years?

He is not only liked, but worshipped in the City of Champions, fans couldn't wait to jump on his bandwagon. The mere concept of being able to sign someone of CP's stature to a long-term contract excites the city, excites the fans, goshdarnit, it excites the hockey world ... the CBA was worth waiting for after all. We cheered with our hearts and souls, but the A-bomb he dropped on us was that, none of that matters to him. Edmonton is not a third world country, it is even English speaking. Clearly, his family is being tortured by the undercover Flames fans whose sole objective is to chase them out of the Oilers. Because as a family unit of professional sports, it would take a tremendous amount of hardship for me to give-up or ask my partner to give-up a budding dream career to end up with the names like Gretzky, Messier, Coffey, Kuri, Fuhr, ... etc. I guess that is just me.

At 3:56 p.m., June 25, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Talk about a bad time to move in to a new place and not have internet or cable TV. I even missed out on gloating to Cosh about making the correct read on Lowe's overreaction to Strachan, and correctly predicting the unhappy wife reason! Oh well. (And: Luongo to Vancouver?? Tanguay to Calgary?? Pronger is leaving us?? I must have died and gone to Oilers hell.)

At 4:03 p.m., June 25, 2006, Blogger Loxy said...

LR -

So, CP has to make sacrifices for his wife, but she doesn't have to make any for him?

I don't think a lack of marriage should have any bearing.

Maybe my upbringing saw both my parents make sacrifices for the benefit of each other's career.

But then again, does Lauren Pronger have a career?

At 4:42 p.m., June 25, 2006, Blogger Hawkeyi's Blog said...

PRONGER JUMPS SHIP (Wife hates Edmonton)
Its been a ride here in Edmonton for hockey fans, and I get the feeling its not over (Pronger Peca and Samsanov at the moment)This free agency has me in jitters, ie Roloson....The fans will require disaster counseling before the new season begins. Kevin Lowe will ultimately put us back on track but I'm afraid our chances of making the playoffs next season are being strained.

At 5:55 p.m., June 25, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Loxy: why makes assumptions without knowing the real reasons? You and others are making her out to be a harpie without knowing the full story. Maybe she is being selfish and petulant, but then again, maybe there's other legitimate reasons behind this.

Who knows, I might be wrong in sticking up for Chris and it could come to light that he's the one who wants out of Edmonton and his wife had nothing to do with the decision.

Or maybe she is being a spoiled bitch, but I'd like to know the facts before I start calling her Yoko Pronger.

At 6:36 p.m., June 25, 2006, Blogger Unknown said...

It's just too bad that the days of players spending their entire career wearing one uniform are long gone. The Yzerman's of the world are even more rare a breed.

Feh. I hate this attitude. The only reason players used to stay with one team for their whole careers is because they didn't have the option to move. The reserve clause meant that a team could hold on to them as long as they desired.

This, of course, did not stop teams from trading players whenever they felt the need. Loyalty was completely a one way street. It would have been as rare than as it is now had there been free agency.

For those of you nostalgic for this system, remember that you enjoyed it because players were denied the basic rights of employment that the rest of us enjoy.

At 7:05 p.m., June 25, 2006, Blogger Chris said...

Its rather annoying hearing some douchebag like Lyle Richardson here leaping to Pronger's defense. Oiler fans got swerved. They locked up a legitimate star in a long term contract and could see themselves putting together a victorious club and had come pretty damn close a week before.

Oh yes, clearly its just aokay to sign a five year contract, and then on the basis that your wife wasn't satisfied with the selection of designer handbags or whatever bullshit reason is behind this to ask to be traded. In my mind this is worse than the idiocy that Vince Carter pulled. At least Carter could say the club was being poorly managed and was terrible. Pronger was 60 minutes and 2 goals from winning the Stanely Cup.

All it does is reinforce that a commitment from a professional athlete is worth less than a promise from a politician. But then again professional athletes tend to be nothing more than the knuckle draggers who knew in high school who had the most athletic talent. I'm sure things like "contractual obligations" need to be explained to them very slowly and with smaller words.

Hockey players get traded, its part of the game. If Pronger's wife didn't like that then she should have married some other rich guy. Truthfully from Mirtle's picture you have to wonder too, I know if I had six million dollars a year to throw around I could pull better tail than that.

At 7:06 p.m., June 25, 2006, Blogger pinder said...

Lyle, unlike others here, I wasn't being completely serious. It's an unfortunate situation, especially with a franchise player, but I know Kevin Lowe won't do anything stupid. This type of thing happens way more in NBA, what with players not wanting to play for Toronto (hi Alonzo!) and all. I guess I just think a contract should mean something. Especially a 6year one.

But yeah, marriage, wives, I get it.

Tim, Thanks! I forgot about the Yashin/Ottawa situation.

At 7:44 p.m., June 25, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

"chris": Given your boorish comments it's appropriate you're born in the year of the boar. Based on your comments, you obviously have intimate knowledge of douchebags and knuckle draggers.

In other words, takes one to know one.

At 8:13 p.m., June 25, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am an Oilers fan and what makes me upset is that there is no way the Oilers get fair value for Pronger. Rumor has it that Keenan and the Panthers turned down Pronger for Horton & Bouwmeester. In addition to trade value, any UFA who was thinking that the Oilers MIGHT make a good destination have now changed their minds. This puts the Oilers behind the 8 ball for the next five years. The Oilers can over come this, but the help will not come from some star player not currently on the team.


At 10:52 p.m., June 25, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

For goodness sake, you would think he was pulling a TO and having his agent whine for more money, instead of putting his wife's concerns ahead of those of the fans'. Who is REALLY being selfish--the woman who may have tried to make a go of it in a strange city, only to not be able to make it work, or the fans who for the sake of the team they root for would happily have a family be miserable? The level of vindictive hatred is astounding.

Also, just consider what might have happened if this hadn't been made public. Odds are that Pronger would have been quietly traded during the summer and the GM would have justified it by pointing out that the offer was too good to refuse. At least Mrs. Pronger wouldn't be vilified for not adjusting to a new city.

At 12:56 a.m., June 26, 2006, Blogger Achtungbaby said...

Lyle, you're making an awful lot of assumptions yourself about people you don't even know. Perspective, remember?

One good chuckle deserves another I guess.

At 1:58 a.m., June 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

she - looks good in the pants!
he- looks good in the panties!

keeping it real!

At 2:09 a.m., June 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Listen, I think people aren't looking at this close enough...Remember when Roy wanted out of Montreal? Didn't we hear other rumors about his wife and another play on the montreal team???

I think someone on the oilers mowed Chris Pronger's grass, if you know what i mean.

At 7:05 a.m., June 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pants and panties?

Exactly what century are we living in right now...and I would just like everyone to clarify, what is the proper "place" for women? Barefoot and pregnant, in the kitchen, or wearing a burkha?

At 9:59 a.m., June 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Gunner: Allow me to pass along some advice my wise old company sergeant major passed along to me during my days with the PPCLI when I had to decide where I'd take my next posting.

"No job or career is permanent. Eventually, it comes to an end, but your family is always gonna be with you, especially when the career is over.They're your priority."

Those words of wisdom guided me toward making the right decision for myself and my family, and I believe those word apply in the Pronger case.

He's not putting his career at risk here. His wife isn't forcing him to give up his career, only to continue his career somewhere else. That's a big difference over asking him to choose between her or his hockey career.

At 10:01 a.m., June 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

baroque: I'm with you, some of the comments here make me wonder what century we're living in.

Last time I checked, I thought women had equal rights in North America.

Nice to see some of the folks here buildin' that bridge to the 16th century!

At 10:20 a.m., June 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...


You'd think Pronger had announced that he wanted to be a Leaf by the hate going on here...

You radical Oil fans make me laugh.

If you didn't like where you were working, for WHATEVER reason, you'd leave, wouldn't you? Why expect any less from Chris?

It's not like you'd get nearly $7M worth of performance out of a guy whose home life was a wreck.

The more you publicly rant about how much you detest his decision to make his life better, the more you hurt your teams chance at getting something of value for him.

Thanks for the laughs...keep the hate on. Maybe Pronger will head to Toronto, and you can have Lindros in return! ;)

At 2:15 p.m., June 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, I'd originally posted that I'd eat my computer piece by piece if the Oil trades Pronger before next season... So does anyone know if Barberian's Steak Spice goes well with my DIMM's? I'm just setting the dinner table now...

At 2:44 p.m., June 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not going to blame Pronger's wife, but certainly this could have been handled better from Pronger and his agent. Lowe should have been the guy making the announcement of Pronger's request, not having to answer questions about it from reporters and resorting to "he hasn't requested anything from me."

Granted, given how Lowe handled the Comrie trade negotiations, one could consider this justified karma.

At 4:26 p.m., June 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

someone wrote = "If you didn't like where you were working, for WHATEVER reason, you'd leave, wouldn't you?"

do you know what the words "legal binding contract" mean?

have you ever signed a lease? a limited partnerhip agreement? any general contract?

At 4:26 p.m., June 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

As an American, who moved to Edmonton for my company, I'm shocked at this woman's selfishness and lack of values. She is what we call an "American Princess" and Pronger should have explained how the real world works to this self-absorbed little... well, you fill the the word you think best fits her disgusting actions. This is so typical of southern American women. It's all about them!

At 6:56 p.m., June 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Regarding the comments about contracts, you've obviously overlooked the fact that Pronger's not looking to get out of his contract. He's merely wants out of Edmonton. Players contracts are moved all the time in the NHL for many reasons and this is no different.

At 7:41 p.m., June 26, 2006, Blogger homeschool_promdate said...

lots of funny aspects to this part is Lauren living through an Edmonton Winter, then going through a Florida Summer!!!...Mrs. Promdate says she'll get sick of the humidity curling her hair in a couple weeks.

At 7:41 p.m., June 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Since when did being a wife mean you shut up and follow your husband wherever his career takes him, without any regard for your own happiness? "Sweetheart, I'm making the money here, so no matter how miserable you are, what I say goes. Suck it up and take some money and go shopping, why don't you, my pretty blond appendage who isn't entitled to an opinion of her own? Just be happy I wasn't traded to Columbus!"

Besides, no one except the two of them knows how much she has already sacrified for his career. What is the point of making a ton of money if you can't control something as elemental to quality of life as where you live? People keep talking about how hockey is a business...well, in any other business, he could leave one job for another at any time to improve the living environment for his family. Sometimes you leave your employer in the lurch, but anyone who stays with one job expecting loyalty from the boss is not living in the real world. If you don't look after your own interests, no one else will.

His choice right now is between A)Edmonton, where his career is successful and his wife is unhappy, or B)some other city, where his career will be successful and his wife will be happy. Seems pretty simple to me.

And if his wife really is the wicked harpy some are making her out to be...then pity the hen-pecked husband Chris Pronger, because he is the poor sap that married her.

At 8:12 p.m., June 26, 2006, Blogger Chris said...

Yea Lyle I'm real offended by that lame attempt at a come back. Mr. "Oh but he has to do whatever it takes for his wife", yea right. Quite frankly with 6.25 million you could turn Anchorage, Alaska into a luxury lifestyle. She missed her family? So what? There are lots of flights heading out of Edmonton International every day. It wouldn't be hard at all to hop a jet down to St.Louis every weekend if you wanted too, nor when your pulling in a cool six mill is that sort of transporation out of your price range. Its a lame excuse if that's what it comes down too.

The other rumor is that Pronger was cutting a swathe through the puck bunnies here and knocked up one girl or another. I supose that would likely jeapordize his marriage. On the other hand I'm suposed to be sympathetic because he's trying to save a marriage that he endangered by not keeping it in his pants? Hell no, if his behaviour made him unable to continue playing in Edmonton then all the more reason to be irritated with him.

As for lyle trying to make it out like Chris Pronger is doing something "noble" like moving to the united states to gain access to some experimental surgery on a dying child..yea right. He shivved the Oilers franchise in the back here and I'm tired of listening to people from Eastern Canada try to prattle on about how the west getting screwed on any given occasion is "really a good thing".

At 8:36 p.m., June 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didn't expect any less of a retort from a boorish young man like yourself, Chris.

And now you're peddling in idle gossip too, I see. Funny how Pronger's supposed lust for puckbunnies never publicly made the rounds prior to Friday's announcement. I bet you would've loudly defended his honour prior to that date if, oh, a Hurricanes fan made that claim during the Finals, eh Chris?

Anyway, keep thumpin' your chest and putting women in their place, Chris, just keep looking over your shoulder to make sure your girlfriend doesn't hear you!

At 8:40 p.m., June 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh, why diss Anchorage Alaska, Chris? I lived there for four years and it's a great city. Lots of folks living there in a luxury lifestyle thanks to the oil industry. They love their hockey there, too.

Next time try a more remote spot, OK? There's a thing called a globe, maybe you've heard of it in one of your classes?

At 9:01 p.m., June 26, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

anyone ever stop to think what if lauren had a really great job and was the bread winner and was so happy, then chris started whining and crying because he hated it there. do you think little miss spoiled brat would just dump everything and ask for a company move? I DONT F#@$%#$% THINK SO!!

At 3:18 a.m., June 27, 2006, Blogger mudcrutch79 said...

do you know what the words "legal binding contract" mean?

have you ever signed a lease? a limited partnerhip agreement? any general contract?

This is a weak argument. Do you know the state of the law as it relates to employment contracts in Canada? Do you know how much more restricted Pronger is right now than any other Canadian would be?

At 2:16 p.m., June 27, 2006, Blogger Achtungbaby said...

Lyle are you seriously bringing this argument into a women's rights issue? Are you drunk?

Get some sleep man.

At 4:15 p.m., June 27, 2006, Blogger Chris said...

As for Anchorage, Alaska not being sufficiently remote, I supose it wouldn't seem all the bad for a guy living with all five of the other people on PEI. I mean its not like being thousands of miles from any other outpost of civilization and wonky daylight hours is a consideration.

As for mentioning "gossip" that's rather ironic coming from a fellow that runs an entire site devoted to passing on hockey gossip. Furthermore, the fact of the matter is given that Pronger himself has failed to offer anything that explains his behaviour speculation is what naturally follows.

At 4:38 p.m., June 27, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gentlemen, when you launch into baseless personal attacks and namecalling, rather than actually make a rational argument to support your opinion, you've lost the debate.

I have no problem with you having a different opinion, but rather your misogynistic, narrow-minded chauvinism.

Oh, and Chris, my "hockey gossip" is based on accredited media sources that only deals in trade and free agent rumours and hurts no one, rather than the unsubstantiated smears that you obviously revel in.

Mr. Gunner, we've had previous discussions/debates on other issues and you've always been respectful and levelheaded even if we didn't see eye-to-eye. Suffice to say, I'm disappointed with your attitude and tone in this debate.

As for you, Chris,

At 6:26 p.m., June 27, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...


Lauren Prongers career is to fuck her husband and spend his money.

if you cant be happy with 6million dollars in edmonton, you cant be happy anywhere.

At 6:55 p.m., June 27, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

James your blog's become a cesspool.

At 6:56 p.m., June 27, 2006, Blogger James Mirtle said...

James your blog's become a cesspool.

Isn't it grand?

At 10:31 p.m., June 27, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's not like you'd get nearly $7M worth of performance out of a guy whose home life was a wreck.

*looks at playoff stats*

Hm. My mistake.

And Spector? I really expected better from you in this whole debate. Instead of coming off like a published, respected columnist, you sound like every other damn retard on the Internet. While others here have not exactly behaved in the most sophisticated of fashions, there's a thing called the higher road, to borrow a turn of phrase. Engaging in name-calling makes you no better than anyone else.

At 11:25 p.m., June 27, 2006, Blogger She said...

"James your blog's become a cesspool."

"Isn't it grand?"

Oh! Is it ever!
This soap opera has been the most unexpectedly horrifying and entertaining saga I could have ever imagine.

As a 25 yr.+ Oiler fan, I've been glued to the Net and TV since April- this has thrown me for a loop. What entertainment, now that the shock and dismay have subsided.

Is CP is a serial philanderer? Or is his spouse merely a spoiled tanorexic princess who calls the shots? God, this hurt a few days ago, but now it's merely ridiculous. Just dump him and get this over with already!

Still hoping this comment thread keeps going , it's been quite brilliant.

At 11:38 p.m., June 27, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Enough with the whining and politically correct garbage. The fat is, these hockey skan...errrr wives should have figured out what the life of a "hockey wife" is like before they started courting their sugar daddy husbands. Like give me a break.

Frankly they should build in huge financial penalties into contracts for stunts like this.

But frankly males have been making the decisions with their lower extremities for thousands of years and they will continue to do so. Somewhat amusing to see million dollar pro stars have the same problems as the rest of us.

At 4:09 a.m., June 28, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Brutus defenders make me laugh...if only this whole situation were funny...

#1. They invariably, and quite vociferously make the claim that Pronger is choosing family "over" career. At the same time, they defend LP, claiming that nobody knows the full details yet. Huh? Sorry, can't have it both ways... If the details are unknown, then where's the crystal ball that tells you it's family "over" career?

#2. Many Orb protectors can't see that Pronger's camp leaked his desire to escape Edmonton. C'mon, put two and two together people. Guess who knew about his "request" when it was leaked? Pronger's camp and only Pronger's camp. Lowe knew Brutus was unhappy, but that doesn't equate to a trade "request." Even if he did know, why would KLowe sewer the market? The trade "request" made it to management Friday night before the draft. *After* it had become a firestorm.

#3. The "request". Several have highlighted that Pronger merely "requested" a trade, but didn't "demand" one... :roll eyes, fall off chair: Brutus has displayed no intention of playing in Edmonton again. If that's not a demand, I have no idea what is. Morris has repeatedly said that Brutus "can't play in Edmonton." Even more telling, his camp poisoned the environment in Edmonton/Rexall by leaking his request. The toxic effects of that leak have intensified while Brutus has kept quiet. Shocker, it all came out the very day he became unreachable. Pushing the leak right before the draft is perfect if you want out quickly. Thankfully KLowe was smart enough to wait a bit.

All in all, Brutus has to man up when he gets back.

One final point. Several "family first" posters seem to think life choices are purely black and white. Sorry, but life has a lot more colour than that.

Oh wait, I think I've figured it out. LP hated the "extra" 'u' we Canucks use in colour, flavour, honour, neighbourhood. Then there's dialogue and catalogue. It just didn't feel comfortable. In her neighbourhood. Flipping through those catalogues. Besides, there's no way her kids should grow up learnin' that. Nevermind the metric system.

Clearly tongue in cheek on that last point folks. Given the propensity to jump off track in this thread, I just had to make sure we're clear. In no way do I think LP is a letterist. And I realize such serious topics are nothing to laugh at.

Back on usually has many more choices that just "A" or "B". Certainly more choices than formula crime movies:
a) Do I phone the FBI to help?
b) Do I solve the problem on my own in whatever fashion the perp "requested"...

Hmmm, right, only two choices. What possible thing could have been so bad in Edmonton that moving will solve it? Particularly when the new team is *not* St. Louis?

I maintain that:
"There's got to be a way to make the situation work without backing out of deal, screwing a franchise and teammates, and flipping the bird to fans."

Of course I don't know the details though. And neither do the Brutus and LP defenders...

- Rod

At 3:58 p.m., June 28, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

send the beeotch to Montreal , see how she likes adapting to learning french.
stupid beeotch.


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At 8:26 p.m., June 29, 2006, Blogger Earl Sleek said...

Wow. Maybe the next CBA needs to include a neutral site where all hockey wives and children are forced to live.

Call it Hockeyville, put it in Mexico City, and make visiting hours twice an offseason.

At 2:24 a.m., June 30, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

How has no one mentioned Prongers mess up nailing that young girl? It seems there's an attempted cover up, but the truth is finally leaking out. Stop blaming his wife everyone. If you found out your husband just cheated on you and got some 20 year old girl pregnant, I'm sure you'd want out of that city too, and have a fresh start with him somewhere else.

At 6:50 a.m., June 30, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd like to think a wife has a role other than a sperm depository. She is entitled to her own opinion (even if it seems stupid to some).

With all this other alleged "activity," exactly when was Pronger supposed to have the time to play hockey? The rumors are proliferating like rabbits!

At 2:25 p.m., June 30, 2006, Blogger Achtungbaby said...

"Wow. Maybe the next CBA needs to include a neutral site where all hockey wives and children are forced to live."

Probably the best idea posted in this thread since it started Earl. It would certainly put an end to useless arguement like this one.

What fun though. We haven't argued like this since the lockout. Good times, good times.

At 3:07 p.m., June 30, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm from edmonton, and have it on good word that chris progner has been seeing a ninteen year old. appaerently she is now pregnant and this is why they want to leave. Allthough no credible news paper could print this right now, it's a story that ive heard from multilple sources. apperantly everyone in town is aware of this, but it's to risky to print it. if this is true, (Im almost sure that there is some truth as all the stories are very simmilar, coming from different people in the know), then Pronger is a real jackass and the city is better off. Letting your personal life affect your professional life to that degree shows a real lack of character.

At 4:41 p.m., June 30, 2006, Blogger ScottyWazz said...

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At 9:18 p.m., June 30, 2006, Blogger OilerFan4ever said...

I'm a PROUD Edmontonian and Oilers Fan living in Penticton B.C.

Why am I living in B.C.?? Well the weather is definitely better in the winter.. The real reason I'm living in B.C. is because my Wife is here.. All of my family is back in Edmonton and I miss all of them dearly.. My Wife has a daughter and 2 Grandchildren living here and we are their only support network (as far as family is concerned) and another daughter living in Vancouver.. I have Grandparents in Edmonton who are quite elderly and miss me dearly too.. Parents, brother, sister and her family, so I can understand the need too be close to family and friends..

I don't think my wife or her daughters are being selfish for keeping us here, away from those whom I love.. This is a sacrifice that I'm willing to make for my wife and her daughters..

Lauren Pronger should be able to put herself on the back burner for her husband. As it was mentioned by others in this Blog, he's the one who has signed the contract and as mentioned, I'm positive that his Agent had spent the time investigating other offers presented before he was traded to Edmonton..

Personally, I just got back to Penticton from a trip from Edmonton, which I took with my wife and the 2 Grandchildren mentioned previously.. We drove many hours both to and from..

The Prongers have enough wealth between them to make the trips back and forth home without any difficulty at all..

If Lauren wanted to stay in St. Louis I'm sure he would go home to visit his family on the off days.. There's no law saying that she can't fly to see her husband either.. Thank God the Wright Brothers got their bicycle to fly back in 1903..

Mr. Pronger made a legally binding contract with the Edmonton Oilers Organization without the consent of his wife?? Come on.. Not a chance.. So, that being said why would his wife agree to it then and then change her mind?? I'm sure that the nuances or lack of had not escaped the intellect of Mrs. Pronger.. Surely she wouldn't follow her husband blindly to a Northern Alberta City like Edmonton without doing at the very minimum a cursory investigation of it..

Like others in the Blog have mentioned, he won't be going back to St. Louis.. So what's the big deal about moving back east??

Whatever the reasons are for his asking for a trade, they are his and his wife’s' and we are left to speculate as to the true nature for his request..

In closing.. I too was shocked and dismayed at the trade request, especially after the devastating Game 7 loss.. I felt the groin injury all the way out here.. I don't think that Mr. Pronger should be traded because he signed the contract.. However, nobody (unless you're a prisoner) can make anybody do anything they don't wish to do.. There would be nothing stopping him from playing down in order to make the Oilers life difficult.. Do you bench or send to the minor league someone of his caliber and expense?? NO!!

I say the Oilers should cut their loses and get the most for him they can.. After all no matter how good a player is they are still just a player and can be defeated just ask the Carolina Hurricanes and Wayne Gretzky..

At 10:26 a.m., July 01, 2006, Blogger Achtungbaby said...

Mr Richardson, telling someone you're laughing at their comments isn't exactly being respectful is it?

At 4:14 p.m., July 01, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

We can't really know just what happened but if Pronger really did cheat on his wife with a young news anchor than why would she even want him back?? He could stay in Edmonton if he doesn't mind it! Maybe it is LP's fault that he cheated because she ws never ever in Edmonton. I read somewhere that she only flew up 6 or 7 times during the season to see her husband and he bought her a really huge house and everything and I guess it just sat empty! Not that it isn't Chris' fault he had an affair but some sources say he also slept with someone from a bar??? I don't know what to believe anymore but Mr.Lowe better do some thinking!!!! Including signing Laraque who actually wants to be in Edmonton instead of worrying about Pronger who doesn't even want to be here and who is to un-professional to set up a press conference or to stick around instead of running off to Mexico...He is good though...???
What's happening to the Oil???

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At 11:36 p.m., July 02, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

My name is Cathryn; I don't wish to be another 'anonymous' person coming out of the woodworks--but I had heard of the Pronger rumour and I was so shocked about the 'affair' accusation that I checked it out on the Internet.

But as a previous blogger said, he 'requested' a trade, not demanded. Although in my mind, it's pretty hard to get the words "Five year contract" out of my head--it is what he signed and agreed to; and he should at least have the decency to carry it out. I don't want to diss Prongs and continue the 'wear the pants not the panties' mockery; but it makes me wonder. WHAT is going on?! Edmonton embraced Prongs and immediately we all loved him. He is a wickedly awesome defense player, one of the best in my opinion, and has never made any comments about not liking or being comfortable in Edmonton before.

Which leads us to the only other factor which would cause him to suddenly leave Edmonton: the wife. Obviously she is of a rather spoiled background, and if all the 'talk' going around about her is true, then I must say I am extremely miffed at her. When you marry a man who plays for the NHL, the N stands for National. Not local. You have to accept that his career requires him to travel--if she wasn't willing to stick it out and make it work, then why did she make the commitment? It is extremely selfish to make your husband do that to his career--it doesn't just affect Chris, but the Oilers and all the Edmonton fans. If she misses her family and old town, then she'll have to get used to it because he's not going back to St. Louis. He makes a decent salary---take an airplane. You'll have to do that from any other city he's transferred to anyways!

Edmonton is a wonderful city; I grew up there, and can think of no obvious differences there. Why the sudden hatred towards it? Is there really an affair going on between Pronger and a news anchor? I can't say that Prongs struck me as that sort of person--he was always the solid, dependable player and carried that in person. Hardly the type to get another woman pregnant outside his marriage. But maybe I'm just in denial. When I saw how he contributed to our team, I got just as swept up in the Pronger-Mania as everybody else.

So answer my questions, folks. Am I desperately clinging onto a would-be fantasy of a beloved defenseman with good reason? Or am a deluding myself in the fact that yes, he had a fling, and now he's paying for it...? Does he deserve the benefit of doubt?

I loved it while it lasted. And even though I'm only 16, I know a good player when I see one. At least Comrie and Weight will be able to show their faces in Edmonton again.

At 12:11 a.m., July 03, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

On reading the e-mails on this site it seems to me there are one of four supposed explanations for why Pronger is asking to leave Edmonton, none of which has been verified by anyone:

1-He's been cheating on his wife.

If so that's so that is a problem between him and his wife.

As an Oiler fan it's none of your business.

2-His wife is cheating on him.

Once again, that's a problem between him and his wife.

As an Oiler fan it's none of your business.

3-His wife doesn't like Edmonton.

That's a problem between him and his wife.

As an Oiler fan it's none of your business.

4-He has a four year contract.

That's a problem between him and the Oilers.

As an Oiler fan it's none of your business.

You have a right to disagree with the Prongers' decision.

What you don't have is a right to foul mouth, castigate, and spread innuendo about them.

Leave them alone !!!

As an Oiler fan I'm disappointed that the Prongers, for whatever reason, are choosing to leave the city I love. I believe it will be their loss. They, obviously don't agree with me. So what? I have enough self-confidence in believing Edmonton is a great city that I don't need somebody else to confirm my belief is correct.

Ask yourself this question.

Do you think the garbage being spewed on this site shows more class than Pronger asking for a trade?

At 12:58 a.m., July 03, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cathryn again...reading the post above, I partially agree---but the thing about being in the NHL is; you are in the public eye. That was their conscious choice, that was their decision. In doing that, they accept that their personal lives are and most likely always will be under scrutiny.
I hate not knowing what to believe with all this gossip and rumours flying around, and in doing so Prongs' reputation is getting trashed. All of this would be laid to rest if Pronger would just have a quick press conference; set straight or validate the rumours, and get out of Edmonton before someone tries to lynch him. I won't hate him--I'm EXTREMELY disappointed that it had to end like this, but it's his life.

At 5:19 p.m., July 03, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

if you knocked up a 19 year old waitress, what would you do?

At 12:00 a.m., July 04, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have heard that Pronger had an affair with a media person in Edmonton and has gotten her pregnant. That is why his whife wanted to leave Edmonton.

Everyone has mentioned that she couldn't handle Canada, but there was a rumour that he was willing to go to another Canadian team. So it is clearly to a Canada thing or western Canada thing.

At 9:52 p.m., July 04, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous says

I am really cheezed off with Pronger. I am a faithful fan of the Oilers and for him to do this stinks. However I do respect his wish to keep his family together, that should be first if that is the real reason for the move. Apparently house was sold and belongings all moved out before the end of the playoffs. Unamed sources indicate there could be another female involved thus the reason for the move. If this is true, it is shocking to say the least. Persons involved including media have been told to keep their info to themselves. I believe the real story needs to be told. Pronger is a public figure when you ask for the attention and pay that he got. Any comments on this by anyone.

At 2:04 a.m., July 05, 2006, Blogger A-List said...

Wow great blog, and great entry.
Being from Edmonton myself, I can really say I'm disapointed in losing such an amazing player who really did give his heart and soul to the team, especially during playoffs-regardless of the situation at home...he did a good thing, listening to the needs of his wife, but honestly, who wouldn't like Edmonton, I guess I'm a bit biased, being born and raised here myself lol.

Anyways, we all hope he and his family are happy in Anaheim, I just wish he was traded to an Eastern Conference team...not that Kevin Lowe didn't try. Lupul is a hometown boy, and we're all happy he's comin' back our way...he's young, and he's a goal scorer (making NHL history against Colorado in this years playoffs when he scored 4 goals, including the game winner--not to mention the beauty of a goal he had against Roloson-top shelf right out of a face off against us in playoffs).

We look forward to our team this year..Kevin Lowe is a smart smart man, and he won't let the fans down, plus we have a lot more salary cap money freed up from Pronger...the guy made over 6 million a season YEESH (not that he isn't worth that much).

Keep up the great blogging :)

At 5:22 p.m., July 07, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oh wow! Now the Ducks have to put up with Pronger's baggage. I really don't see how moving is going to solve whatever problem exists between Chris & Lauren.I truly wish with all my heart, that he divorces her. Same with Micheal Peca...divorce that bossy american wife!! Havn't these women ever heard of the word "compromise"?? They all belong on Dr. Phil.There are tons of Canadian would be wives who would support you guys and your career.That's what it boils down to: American spoiled brats who don't want to live in Canadian cities. Thse hunky Canadians are foolish to marry these pampered american broads.

At 6:10 p.m., July 20, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

He signed a contract and he should have stayed. His wife should have been supportive and sucked it up for a few more years. They could have had a second home during the off season no problem if she really hated Edmonton that much. And i'm sure she doesn't mind spending all that money - which there is less of now with the trade. Very disappointing. Chris Pronger you should feel ashamed of yourself. I wish the oilers had made you stay. Take your member out of your wif'e purse and be a man.

At 8:26 p.m., July 22, 2006, Blogger Brendan said...

I'm writing once, and only once. My name is Brendan and I feel the need to respond to (not flame, not argue, I'll leave that to him) Lyle Richardson, as well as expound my opinion on the issue at hand. Lyle, you seem to consistently write extremely vapid and insipient posts. Also, it seems these posts have little to do with the original thread and instead become an attack on the person and an opinion they are entitled to. I think the highlight of it all was when you singled out Loxy who, clearly, by her first post, is a woman, for fulfilling her right earned as a woman, expressing her opinion. Otherwise, when in doubt, call them a misogynist or boorish, I suppose. You decide, what exactly? I have no argument against what they are saying, so I'll fall back on generalizing sterotypes? It's so easy to label someone. Now, I am in no way defending anything anyone else has written. They are easily old enough to do that on their own and I'll leave them to it. I simply wanted to take you down a peg or two, as well as send you running for the dictionary to look up a few adjectives that aren't worn out and tired. If this is the extent of your range on the internet, starting flame wars, then that's sad. I know your type, you see someone write in, and you just salivate for a chance to flame. You feel an unquenchable desire to prove to yourself that, even if you're socially deficient when you step outside your door, at least you're not when behind the anonymity of a computer. Whether you post your name on there or not, I'm sorry, but that is the case. What's going to irritate you even more, is that you know I'm right. There is no need to point out the irony of me writing this myself over the internet, by the way, as I am fully aware. I also realize that, no matter what, you'll find a way to flame me, even if it takes days. That is what encapsulates you. As far as the Pronger issue, a contract should be honored. No one was asking him to divorce his wife, just do what you put your name to. Were I married, If my wife had a problem with it, I would say "I signed the contract, I have an obligation." The same would be said if the roles were switched. That is my opinion, and I'm sticking to it.

At 7:24 p.m., November 13, 2006, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck Pronger and his hoe wife, no fuck all a u and ur gya comments, the only thing a player shall do is a commit to a crontract no matter where he plays, fuck the wife and fuck the family play for what u igned ya fuckin goooons

At 5:00 p.m., April 21, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard some pretty ugly rumors about Pronger and another woman. Don't blame his wife for laying down the law, if they are true.

Anaheim won't let him run around irresponsibly. NHL hockey players haven't quite the 'get out of jail free' card in California that they have in Alberta.

At 1:30 p.m., June 15, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

It still hurts.

At 1:05 a.m., July 20, 2007, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I live in Edmonton. Edmonton is the murder capital of Canada (for the last 3 years running, with twice the murder rate of comparably sized Calgary). I won't even bother to go into what a subjectively awful place this is (and it is!), when you have something so obviously and objectively wrong with it as the horrific crime/murder rate (not even to mention things like the police tasering a jaywalker... twice!). Almost everyone I know here has left, with the rest (myself included) looking to leave. Edmontonians you have only yourselves to blame for making this city such a terrible place that we're losing hockey players, not because of the money (which we're starting to get because of oil), but because their wives' hate it here so much that they're willing to take a pay cut to live somewhere else (and that's only the surface of who this city is losing and why).


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